posts that I think will get deleted at DN

leagued · Post by **leagued** » 23 Sep 2008 17:10

about half my posts at DN get deleted, and I'd like to be able to immediately repost them. if putting them here is non-kosher, let me know.

There's a big difference between what one CAN (legally) do and what one SHOULD (morally) do. Yes, legally all negative posts can be deleted, but that is extremely limiting to any kind of real discussion of the literary works. Nothing progresses from praise alone.

Post by **Freakzilla** » 23 Sep 2008 17:54

It's OK if you post them here, but we have a topic at T(A)U for that.

leagued · Post by **leagued** » 23 Sep 2008 18:21

T(A)U?

Post by **Freakzilla** » 23 Sep 2008 18:52

The (Almost) Undeleted

inhuien · Post by **inhuien** » 24 Sep 2008 04:07

Remember rule two of T(A)U, DON'T talk about T(A)U!!

:)

SandChigger · Post by **SandChigger** » 24 Sep 2008 07:16

Since Preeqs or suspected Preeqs aren't allowed on T(A)U, it wouldn't be a bad idea to keep a thread here for temporary storage. Posts could be moved to the T(A)U thread(s) after we're sure of...affinities?

TheDukester · Post by **TheDukester** » 24 Sep 2008 10:31

leagued wrote:about half my posts at DN get deleted, and I'd like to be able to immediately repost them.

So what's the point of all this?

If half your posts over there are being deleted ... why even bother? Why not just cut out the middleman and post somewhere once and be done with it?

SandChigger · Post by **SandChigger** » 24 Sep 2008 11:45

OH, but it's THE OFFICIAL BOARD!!!!

TheDukester · Post by **TheDukester** » 24 Sep 2008 11:46

Official POOP!

(am I doing it right?)

A Thing of Eternity · Post by **A Thing of Eternity** » 24 Sep 2008 12:30

inhuien wrote:Remember rule two of T(A)U, DON'T talk about T(A)U!! :)

Nice!

inhuien · Post by **inhuien** » 24 Sep 2008 14:29

chanilover · Post by **chanilover** » 24 Sep 2008 14:59

SandChigger wrote:OH, but it's THE OFFICIAL BOARD!!!!

Official sack of shit. What a dump, it's not even worth the effort to log on. Any site where a useless cunt like Hyppo can spread her wings like a virulent venereal disease has to be in trouble.

leagued · Post by **leagued** » 24 Sep 2008 17:01

So what's the point of all this?

If half your posts over there are being deleted ... why even bother? Why not just cut out the middleman and post somewhere once and be done with it?

I like to argue and that requires a dissenting position (such as those held by the people at DN). I also hate being censored, so I do post over here, but almost everyone here shares my opinion of the KJA books (and are often more vehement about it than I am) and so that doesn't really work as an enjoyable argument for me:
"I hate the KJA books"
"I hate the KJA books and think that he deserves to burned alive on a pile of pedophiles!"
"Uh... yeah, the books sucked donkey balls"

Post by **Freakzilla** » 24 Sep 2008 17:10

leagued wrote:"I hate the KJA books and think that he deserves to burned alive on a pile of pedophiles!"

Good one!

Sole Man · Post by **Sole Man** » 24 Sep 2008 17:21

If you like to argue so much, just say you like the KJA books. (Just make up the things you like about them)

" love the KJA books!"
"You suck! What do you like about them?"
"Ugh...Plot, which they totally have, and its not just a bad ripoff of DUNE, a totally unrelated classic Science Fiction novel! Yeah...that's what I like about them..."

Ampoliros · Post by **Ampoliros** » 24 Sep 2008 17:48

Its more appropriate to call him a child molester, not a pedophile. He doesn't really love children, he just abuses their mental progression.

Rakis · Post by **Rakis** » 24 Sep 2008 23:05

Sole Man wrote:If you like to argue so much, just say you like the KJA books. (Just make up the things you like about them)

" love the KJA books!"
"You suck! What do you like about them?"
"Ugh...Plot, which they totally have, and its not just a bad ripoff of DUNE, a totally unrelated classic Science Fiction novel! Yeah...that's what I like about them..."

Typical posts nowadays...

cmsahe · Post by **cmsahe** » 24 Sep 2008 23:06

SandChigger wrote:OH, but it's THE OFFICIAL BOARD!!!!

But almost nobody visits it!

Secher Nbiw · Post by **Secher Nbiw** » 25 Sep 2008 16:57

What gets deleted? Damn near everything.

reading order...

mine is:

original six (self contained)

House books (in order to understand the Legends books)

Legends (in order to understand hunters and sandworms)

Hunters and Sandworms (because they are tied to all the prelude series)

that one gets deleted... because I dare place the original six seperate from the prequels...

leagued · Post by **leagued** » 25 Sep 2008 18:27

Are there any reviews out by well-known and respected sources? Not to say that Library Journal isn't a respectable publication, but its purpose is directed at stocking libraries, which are establishments that require a wide gamut of material to be stocked in order to draw the largest population segment. The goal of the publication is not to provide a useful review to a reader, but to indicate to librarians what books are likely to see a decent volume of readership.
There are several major newspaper columns dedicated to book reviews and countless sci-fi fantasy book blogs, are there any reviews coming in from those sources? No matter what the rep of the Library Journal among librarians, I think its fairly safe to say that their reviews carry little weight with the intended audience of Dune fans (or sci-fi fans in general). What's the early consensus on the book among genre reviewers? For a release as big as a new Dune book there should have been plenty of ARCs (Advance Review Copies) sent out to reviewers, so why haven't we been seeing reviews yet?

-in reply to a thread about a "starred" review from Library Journal

leagued · Post by **leagued** » 25 Sep 2008 21:28

The original Dune did not receive a starred review from them but both Machine Crusade and Paul of Dune did.
So, do you agree that Frank Herbert's original Dune is inferior to both and/or either of these latter works? Or is the Library Journal review system based more on predicting mass appeal than literary quality?

Rakis · Post by **Rakis** » 25 Sep 2008 22:36

Keep at it, Leagued !!

A Thing of Eternity · Post by **A Thing of Eternity** » 26 Sep 2008 12:09

leagued wrote:The original Dune did not receive a starred review from them but both Machine Crusade and Paul of Dune did.
So, do you agree that Frank Herbert's original Dune is inferior to both and/or either of these latter works? Or is the Library Journal review system based more on predicting mass appeal than literary quality?

That's a good point, I wonder what his rebuttle will be. Oh wait, there won't be a rebuttle, that'll get ghosted before I go over there to peek.

TheDukester · Post by **TheDukester** » 26 Sep 2008 12:19

Oh, he's definitely caught on that one. Library Journal recommends, but does not review. Its job is strictly to gauge potential interest in new releases and then advise its readers accordingly.

And the great part is that Byron brought up the subject himself. He's the one who started that thread. Um ... whoops?

Look for that thread to be locked or deleted soon. It's how "history" is recorded over there.

Secher Nbiw · Post by **Secher Nbiw** » 26 Sep 2008 13:29

A Thing of Eternity wrote:
leagued wrote:The original Dune did not receive a starred review from them but both Machine Crusade and Paul of Dune did.
So, do you agree that Frank Herbert's original Dune is inferior to both and/or either of these latter works? Or is the Library Journal review system based more on predicting mass appeal than literary quality?
That's a good point, I wonder what his rebuttle will be. Oh wait, there won't be a rebuttle, that'll get ghosted before I go over there to peek.

posting it here, so you don't have to go there

Literary quality.

And I don't think they were doing starred reviews back in 1965.

and my soon-to-be-deleted reply:

if that constitutes a review would you then not mind if I gave a summary of the plot and then added "Don't buy this, it's rotten to the core"?

Or would you have that deleted in a heartbeat, stating that there's nothing constructive about it?

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