V is such garbage

zacher2005 · Post by **zacher2005** » 07 Mar 2011 23:44

but friggin addictive. Me and my wife are watching last week's episode now. Can't.......pull.......my.....eyes.....away....

Kojiro · Post by **Kojiro** » 08 Mar 2011 02:03

I've been enjoying it but I'm confused by your "garbage" comment. In fact the "they've come for our genes to accelerate their evolution" is a wee bit more believable of a premise than "they've come for our water." Not to imply that the original miniseries wasn't awesome anyway.

Serkanner · Post by **Serkanner** » 08 Mar 2011 03:49

I have watched the first three episode but after those I couldn't stand the ridiculous plotlines any more. Morena Baccarin is the only reason I might watch another episode.

Post by **Omphalos** » 08 Mar 2011 04:07

V sucks, and it always has.

zacher2005 · Post by **zacher2005** » 08 Mar 2011 08:35

Kojiro wrote:I've been enjoying it but I'm confused by your "garbage" comment. In fact the "they've come for our genes to accelerate their evolution" is a wee bit more believable of a premise than "they've come for our water." Not to imply that the original miniseries wasn't awesome anyway.

After almost 2 seasons they finally say what the hell they are here for, plus the acting is so bad...so so bad, lol.

SandChigger · Post by **SandChigger** » 08 Mar 2011 09:48

Kojiro wrote:In fact the "they've come for our genes to accelerate their evolution" is a wee bit more believable of a premise than "they've come for our water."

Oh fuck. Fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck!

I didn't know that. I haven't seen any of the remake/reboot/rehash, but... fuck.

Actually, I'm a wee bit dubious of the "wee bit more believable" bit. Transferring genes between different biochemistries?

Fuck.

Ampoliros · Post by **Ampoliros** » 08 Mar 2011 11:00

Did they also come for Diesel technology to accelerate their technological evolution? Gene splicing isn't evolution, its gene splicing. Is this some kind of 'Lizards are still furthur down the evolutionary track than mammals' kind of explanation?

Also, if all they need is our DNA, then why the big show, why not just rob medical facilities or even just ask for it outright.

Kojiro · Post by **Kojiro** » 08 Mar 2011 18:07

Ampoliros wrote:Did they also come for Diesel technology to accelerate their technological evolution? Gene splicing isn't evolution, its gene splicing. Is this some kind of 'Lizards are still furthur down the evolutionary track than mammals' kind of explanation?

Also, if all they need is our DNA, then why the big show, why not just rob medical facilities or even just ask for it outright.

Behind the scenes interviews have stated that they're drawing inspiration from alien abduction folklore. Anyway, apparently they require these breeding centers that need to built (which would raise questions otherwise without the big showing) and there were specific hereditary lines they needed the genes from.

SandChigger · Post by **SandChigger** » 08 Mar 2011 18:58

But... but...

Maybe they're actually descendants of an intelligent race of Terran dinosaurs that did make it into space and escape the asteroid!

Terran origin, DNA, same basic biochem.

Otherwise... forget it.

There's no reason to think that the DNA-equivalent of alien species would be compatible enough with Terran/human DNA to permit splicing. Or that "genes" would function in the different biochemistry of alien cells in the same way.

It's STOOOPID. Period.

Kojiro · Post by **Kojiro** » 08 Mar 2011 19:02

Science fiction has been making the same general mistake for ages. Star Trek, anyone?

SandChigger · Post by **SandChigger** » 08 Mar 2011 19:18

True, and they've had various sounds echoing through the vacuum of outer space as well: doesn't make it right or any more plausible.

Just shows how ignorant or accepting of outright error science-fiction fans can be.

In the latter case, the motivation is probably often the same one that lies behind "WHO CARES if it's shitty writing with stupid, dumbed-down plots? It's more DUNE to read!!!"

(And IIRC, on Enterprise [which was generally abysmal] they tried to retcon the Human-Vulcan incompatibility and how hybrids like Spok were possible with some flimflam about Doctor Flox (sp?) coming up with a special enzyme, blah blah. So some people are aware of the problems, which is somewhat encouraging!)

Kojiro · Post by **Kojiro** » 08 Mar 2011 19:36

I like to pretend Enterprise didn't exist.

zacher2005 · Post by **zacher2005** » 08 Mar 2011 19:43

Kojiro wrote:I like to pretend Enterprise didn't exist.

Deep Space Nine was by far the best IMO.

Post by **Omphalos** » 08 Mar 2011 20:02

SandChigger wrote:But... but...

Maybe they're actually descendants of an intelligent race of Terran dinosaurs that did make it into space and escape the asteroid!

Speaking of Star Trek, I think that an episode of Voyager had that plot. Think I read a story that had that also.

ErasOmnius · Post by **ErasOmnius** » 08 Mar 2011 23:03

"Distant Origin", with Concetta Tomei as Minister Odala.

SandChigger · Post by **SandChigger** » 08 Mar 2011 23:12

Kojiro wrote:I like to pretend Enterprise didn't exist.

You and me both, believe me.

(And I'm not by any means even a Trekkie.)

Omphalos wrote:Speaking of Star Trek, I think that an episode of Voyager had that plot. Think I read a story that had that also.

Ahp, I saw that one, too. (Thanks for the episode title, I'm assuming, ErasOmnius.)

I much preferred the one where Janeway and Chakotay get time-slipped or evo-warped (or whatever the fuck) and evolve into some kind of giant sex-craved salamander thangs.

Hawt & viscous mucus naughtiness!

Kojiro · Post by **Kojiro** » 08 Mar 2011 23:24

SandChigger wrote: I much preferred the one where Janeway and Chakotay get time-slipped or evo-warped (or whatever the fuck) and evolve into some kind of giant sex-craved salamander thangs.

Really? Because that episode is universally regarded as the Worst. Episode. Ever.

SandChigger · Post by **SandChigger** » 09 Mar 2011 01:25

You really really don't get me sometimes, do you?

(I mean "sex-crazed" above, btw. D'uh.)

Post by **Omphalos** » 09 Mar 2011 03:05

SandChigger wrote:

You really really don't get me sometimes, do you?

(I mean "sex-crazed" above, btw. D'uh.)

I liked that one too

SandChigger · Post by **SandChigger** » 09 Mar 2011 04:38

(Now I'm confused.

)

SadisticCynic · Post by **SadisticCynic** » 09 Mar 2011 13:09

SandChigger wrote:(Now I'm confused. )

It's OK. You are him and he is you, see. So you both like the same things...

Apjak · Post by **Apjak** » 09 Mar 2011 14:33

Okay I apologize for knowing this, but it was Paris and Janeway, not Chakotay. I blame it on my folks not having cable.

Kojiro · Post by **Kojiro** » 09 Mar 2011 17:04

SandChigger · Post by **SandChigger** » 09 Mar 2011 18:57

Apjak wrote:it was Paris and Janeway, not Chakotay

Thanks, but such details are irrelevant...

In my mind it's always Chakotay.

Eyes High · Post by **Eyes High** » 10 Mar 2011 14:32

SandChigger wrote:
Apjak wrote:it was Paris and Janeway, not Chakotay
Thanks, but such details are irrelevant...

In my mind it's always Chakotay.

Chokotay was hot.

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