E. LeGuille wrote:I originally thought that Thinking Machines were machines that had human brains.
Why in the world would anyone think that? It doesn't make any sense at all. If Frank Herbert had meant some kind of machine+human combination by the phrase "thinking machines" (NB. NEVER capitalized in the originals), he would have used the word CYBORG, which was coined in 1960.
I'm sorry, but that's yet another of those unthinking misreadings of the actual words in the books that are simply impossible, akin to that "the neutral island where the CET meets could be the Moon or an orbital platform" proposed (if not originated) by yet another mostly fluent yet originally non-native speaker of English, TAZ (=The Almighty Zeus), whom you probably know as Jonathan F on FB & KJASF.
Sorry, I did not clarify. I was 8 when I saw the David Lynch film, and the drawings if the introduction made me hear Thinking Machines, and I thought that meant Machines with human brains. I did not know about Robots with AI like that.
E. LeGuille wrote:Sorry, I did not clarify. I was 8 when I saw the David Lynch film, and the drawings if the introduction made me hear Thinking Machines, and I thought that meant Machines with human brains. I did not know about Robots with AI like that.
Context is everything.
I've never seen the version with the background history illustrations, so I don't know what aspect of them made you "hear" capital letters. Are you perchance a synesthete?
I'm only 23, so it was a while ago.
Nah, 15 years is but yesterday. I've got warts that are far older.
"Let the dead give water to the dead. As for me, it's NO MORE FUCKING TEARS!"
E. LeGuille wrote:Sorry, I did not clarify. I was 8 when I saw the David Lynch film, and the drawings if the introduction made me hear Thinking Machines, and I thought that meant Machines with human brains. I did not know about Robots with AI like that.
Context is everything.
I've never seen the version with the background history illustrations, so I don't know what aspect of them made you "hear" capital letters. Are you perchance a synesthete?
Heh, no. But I do taste something when I listen to frequencies below a certain range, so I may have some synesthesi-action going on.
Sorry, but what I am talking about is that the extended version has a narrative beginning, with pictures of the thinking machines. And they made me think that for some reason.
I'm only 23, so it was a while ago.
Nah, 15 years is but yesterday. I've got warts that are far older.
A wart that is older than me... that's a scary thought.
E. LeGuille wrote:Sorry, but what I am talking about is that the extended version has a narrative beginning, with pictures of the thinking machines. And they made me think that for some reason.
While I haven't seen it myself, I have heard/read about the intro. Another of Lynch's many sins.
And wouldn't it be amusing if that's where Kevin & Brian got their "cymek" inspiration?!
"Let the dead give water to the dead. As for me, it's NO MORE FUCKING TEARS!"
say Chig, did you see the flap I had in The Challenge thread ?
Photobucket deleting the "Wut's Dat ? I Raff, I Ruse ?" pic ?
they haven't yet deleted all the other engrish pics I put in there right after that.
"You want mirrion dorrar ? Fuck you, here bomb !" still makes me giggle.
anyway, do you think that kind of humor is racist, and do the little yellow ones themselves
think that kind of humor is racist ?
................ I exist only to amuse myself ................
I personally feel that this message board, Jacurutu, is full of hateful folks who don't know
how to fully interact with people. ~ "Spice Grandson" (Bryon Merrit) 08 June 2008
I think we've had this discussion before,about how racist the Japanese are.
they still think they're numba one,right ?
then the chinese & then "white people" ...
and koreans are on the bottom, and africans aren't people.
that about sum it up ?
................ I exist only to amuse myself ................
I personally feel that this message board, Jacurutu, is full of hateful folks who don't know
how to fully interact with people. ~ "Spice Grandson" (Bryon Merrit) 08 June 2008
I cant see how it's racist when it's true. They do pronounce L as an R.
"The beginning of knowledge is the discovery of something we do not understand." - Frank Herbert
“This tutoring is dialectical. Literature makes us better noticers of life; we get to practice on life itself; which in turn makes us better readers of detail in literature; which in turn makes us better readers of life. And so on and on.” - James Wood
Seraphan wrote:I cant see how it's racist when it's true. They do pronounce L as an R.
As you quickly learn in The South, if you are of another race and you criticize someone, even if it is true you are a racist.
Depends why you say it. If I say that a large % of native canadians are drunks, it's just true, not racist. If i meet a native person and assume they're a drunk, that's racist. I can criticize people all I want and not be a racist.
I do imagine you down south get a LOT of people playing the race card and assuming racism when there isn't any, but I would imagine that white people are also over reacting and assuming that people are assuming they're being racist more often than it's actually happening.
Seraphan wrote:I cant see how it's racist when it's true. They do pronounce L as an R.
As you quickly learn in The South, if you are of another race and you criticize someone, even if it is true you are a racist.
Aww, man! Does that mean i can't make my George Takei impersonation anymore?
"The beginning of knowledge is the discovery of something we do not understand." - Frank Herbert
“This tutoring is dialectical. Literature makes us better noticers of life; we get to practice on life itself; which in turn makes us better readers of detail in literature; which in turn makes us better readers of life. And so on and on.” - James Wood
Seraphan wrote:I cant see how it's racist when it's true. They do pronounce L as an R.
As you quickly learn in The South, if you are of another race and you criticize someone, even if it is true you are a racist.
Depends why you say it. If I say that a large % of native canadians are drunks, it's just true, not racist. If i meet a native person and assume they're a drunk, that's racist. I can criticize people all I want and not be a racist.
I know that, man.
I do imagine you down south get a LOT of people playing the race card and assuming racism when there isn't any, but I would imagine that white people are also over reacting and assuming that people are assuming they're being racist more often than it's actually happening.
Seraphan wrote:I cant see how it's racist when it's true. They do pronounce L as an R.
As you quickly learn in The South, if you are of another race and you criticize someone, even if it is true you are a racist.
Depends why you say it. If I say that a large % of native canadians are drunks, it's just true, not racist. If i meet a native person and assume they're a drunk, that's racist. I can criticize people all I want and not be a racist.
I know that, man.
I know you know that.
I do imagine you down south get a LOT of people playing the race card and assuming racism when there isn't any, but I would imagine that white people are also over reacting and assuming that people are assuming they're being racist more often than it's actually happening.
Seraphan wrote:I cant see how it's racist when it's true. They do pronounce L as an R.
As you quickly learn in The South, if you are of another race and you criticize someone, even if it is true you are a racist.
Depends why you say it. If I say that a large % of native canadians are drunks, it's just true, not racist. If i meet a native person and assume they're a drunk, that's racist. I can criticize people all I want and not be a racist.
I know that, man.
I know you know that.
I do imagine you down south get a LOT of people playing the race card and assuming racism when there isn't any, but I would imagine that white people are also over reacting and assuming that people are assuming they're being racist more often than it's actually happening.
Seraphan wrote:I cant see how it's racist when it's true. They do pronounce L as an R.
As you quickly learn in The South, if you are of another race and you criticize someone, even if it is true you are a racist.
Depends why you say it. If I say that a large % of native canadians are drunks, it's just true, not racist. If i meet a native person and assume they're a drunk, that's racist. I can criticize people all I want and not be a racist.
I know that, man.
I know you know that.
I do imagine you down south get a LOT of people playing the race card and assuming racism when there isn't any, but I would imagine that white people are also over reacting and assuming that people are assuming they're being racist more often than it's actually happening.
Seraphan wrote:Aww, man! Does that mean i can't make my George Takei impersonation anymore?
No, it just means you have to play up the gay angle more.
Imagine yourself William "The Shat" Shatner...
You mean ask people for money simply for talking to me. I think i can do that.
"The beginning of knowledge is the discovery of something we do not understand." - Frank Herbert
“This tutoring is dialectical. Literature makes us better noticers of life; we get to practice on life itself; which in turn makes us better readers of detail in literature; which in turn makes us better readers of life. And so on and on.” - James Wood