The Rules

Post by **Freakzilla** » 08 Feb 2008 21:07

Omphalos is the Judge of the Change.

DO NOT OFFEND HIM

Sandrider is WATERMASTER

If he says so, your water will be poured on the sand.

Now...

Most of my members are here because they were banned from Dunenovels, some banned from Arrakeen before that, and I founded Jacurutu on the premise that people would not be censored.

I do not ban people for calling other members childish names or because someone feels insulted.

We can either have free speech or censorship not both and middle ground makes me a hypocrite.

So, if you're easily insulted or offended, maybe Jacurutu isn't the place for you. If you can take the heat, you're welcome to it.

1. No personal attacks.

Also Known as: Ad Hominem Abusive.

Description of Personal Attack
A personal attack is committed when a person substitutes abusive remarks for evidence when attacking another person's claim or claims. This line of "reasoning" is fallacious because the attack is directed at the person making the claim and not the claim itself. The truth value of a claim is independent of the person making the claim. After all, no matter how repugnant an individual might be, he or she can still make true claims.

Not all ad Hominems are fallacious. In some cases, an individual's characteristics can have a bearing on the question of the veracity of her claims. For example, if someone is shown to be a pathological liar, then what he says can be considered to be unreliable. However, such attacks are weak, since even pathological liars might speak the truth on occasion.

In general, it is best to focus one's attention on the content of the claim and not on who made the claim. It is the content that determines the truth of the claim and not the characteristics of the person making the claim.

Examples of Personal Attack

In a school debate, Bill claims that the President's economic plan is unrealistic. His opponent, a professor, retorts by saying "the freshman has his facts wrong."

"This theory about a potential cure for cancer has been introduced by a doctor who is a known lesbian feminist. I don't see why we should extend an invitation for her to speak at the World Conference on Cancer."

"Bill says that we should give tax breaks to companies. But he is untrustworthy, so it must be wrong to do that."

"That claim cannot be true. Dave believes it, and we know how morally repulsive he is."

"Bill claims that Jane would be a good treasurer. However I find Bill's behavior offensive, so I'm not going to vote for Jill."

"Jane says that drug use is morally wrong, but she is just a goody-two shoes Christian, so we don't have to listen to her."

Bill: "I don't think it is a good idea to cut social programs."
Jill: "Why not?"
Bill: "Well, many people do not get a fair start in life and hence need some help. After all, some people have wealthy parents and have it fairly easy. Others are born into poverty and..."
Jill: "You just say that stuff because you have a soft heart and an equally soft head."

2. Keep the profanity to a minimum.

3. No pornography.

4. No advertisements.

5. English only. Non-English posts will be deleted. (Exceptions: Galach, Chakobsa, and Fremen)

6. No spam.

7. No personal information about other members.

8. Nothing illegal in the USA.

I may or may not add more later...

Tyrant · Post by **Tyrant** » 08 Feb 2008 23:09

this might be the first rule list i agree with....hmm..i hope i can still cuss a little bit

but i will keep it minimal

Post by **Freakzilla** » 08 Feb 2008 23:14

I don't mind it if it's to help emphasize a point, just don't get carried away.

Simon · Post by **Simon** » 09 Feb 2008 01:43

Sounds good to me!

Spice Grandson · Post by **Spice Grandson** » 12 Feb 2008 12:19

Freakzilla wrote:1. No personal attacks. It's fine to argue someone's point, let's just not get personal, OK?

2. Keep the profanity to a minimum.

3. No pornography.

4. No advertisements.

I may or may not add more later...

I'm sure that first one will become a challenge real fast. The last two will be the bane of your existence as an admin of the site.

Post by **Freakzilla** » 12 Feb 2008 13:10

Spice Grandson wrote:
Freakzilla wrote:1. No personal attacks. It's fine to argue someone's point, let's just not get personal, OK?

2. Keep the profanity to a minimum.

3. No pornography.

4. No advertisements.

I may or may not add more later...
I'm sure that first one will become a challenge real fast.

Well, we have to try.

The last two will be the bane of your existence as an admin of the site.

Are you saying we should allow porn and advertisements?

Tleilax Master B · Post by **Tleilax Master B** » 12 Feb 2008 13:34

Spice Grandson wrote:
Freakzilla wrote:1. No personal attacks. It's fine to argue someone's point, let's just not get personal, OK?

2. Keep the profanity to a minimum.

3. No pornography.

4. No advertisements.

I may or may not add more later...
I'm sure that first one will become a challenge real fast. The last two will be the bane of your existence as an admin of the site.

The first one will be a challenge, but I think you will find that most of us will be rather forgiving. It needs enforced; just not with an iron fist.

What!?! Porn the bane of Freak's existence!?! Sure, if you replace "bane" with "reason for"

GamePlayer · Post by **GamePlayer** » 12 Feb 2008 13:46

Actually, if you've outright banned gmail accounts, that should account for 90% of the spam on the internet. They are so bad

Post by **Freakzilla** » 12 Feb 2008 13:53

Tleilax Master B wrote:What!?! Porn the bane of Freak's existence!?! Sure, if you replace "bane" with "reason for"

Maybe he meant "boon"?

GamePlayer · Post by **GamePlayer** » 12 Feb 2008 14:04

Yahoo!

Two girls, one cup!

*this little disgusting internet meme will be sure to get that vomit smiley making the rounds here*

Tleilax Master B · Post by **Tleilax Master B** » 12 Feb 2008 14:56

Freakzilla wrote:
Tleilax Master B wrote:What!?! Porn the bane of Freak's existence!?! Sure, if you replace "bane" with "reason for"
Maybe he meant "boon"?

Post by **Omphalos** » 12 Feb 2008 15:34

GamePlayer wrote:Actually, if you've outright banned gmail accounts, that should account for 90% of the spam on the internet. They are so bad

We have a pretty sophisticated alpha-catchca set up. As far as I can tell, none have gotten through here or T(A)U's since implementation.

Post by **Freakzilla** » 12 Feb 2008 15:43

I've deleted one member who signed up with a gmail account. It was so obvious I had to laugh, it was something like spam@gmail.com

SandChigger · Post by **SandChigger** » 12 Feb 2008 15:47

What's with the "Three Faces of Superstring" currently at the end of the members' list?

Post by **Freakzilla** » 12 Feb 2008 15:55

SandChigger wrote:What's with the "Three Faces of Superstring" currently at the end of the members' list?

I emailed him and asked him about that. I approved the plain "superstring" account.

Spice Grandson · Post by **Spice Grandson** » 12 Feb 2008 16:13

Freakzilla wrote:
Are you saying we should allow porn and advertisements?

Gods no!

Just that you'll probably be busy deleting these new member requests with regularity as time goes by.

Pardot Kynes · Post by **Pardot Kynes** » 12 Feb 2008 16:35

GamePlayer wrote:Yahoo!

Two girls, one cup!

*this little disgusting internet meme will be sure to get that vomit smiley making the rounds here*

Hate to burst your bubble, but they used chocolate when they "ate" it.

AHEM.

Freak, would there be any objection to two stickied threads, something like "Sexy Women Thread" and "The Sexy Men Thread" where you can post work-safe pictures of the people we all believe are hot

GamePlayer · Post by **GamePlayer** » 12 Feb 2008 16:40

Pardot Kynes wrote:Hate to burst your bubble, but they used chocolate when they "ate" it.

AHEM.

Oh, I don't doubt it. The editing must have been clever. Regardless, it was the most disgusting internet meme to which I've yet been exposed

Post by **Freakzilla** » 12 Feb 2008 16:43

Pardot Kynes wrote:Freak, would there be any objection to two stickied threads, something like "Sexy Women Thread" and "The Sexy Men Thread" where you can post work-safe pictures of the people we all believe are hot

As long as they're "work safe", no problem.

Tleilax Master B · Post by **Tleilax Master B** » 12 Feb 2008 18:07

GamePlayer wrote:
Pardot Kynes wrote:Hate to burst your bubble, but they used chocolate when they "ate" it.

AHEM.
Oh, I don't doubt it. The editing must have been clever. Regardless, it was the most disgusting internet meme to which I've yet been exposed

Yuck, worse than Tub Girl and Goatsy??? Think I'll just avoid that one....

Post by **Omphalos** » 12 Feb 2008 19:16

Spice Grandson wrote:
Freakzilla wrote:
Are you saying we should allow porn and advertisements?

Gods no! Just that you'll probably be busy deleting these new member requests with regularity as time goes by.

You should get a better captca Byron. I get zero spammers now.

Mandy · Post by **Mandy** » 12 Feb 2008 19:48

He should also make the font bigger so I can read the posts over there

GamePlayer · Post by **GamePlayer** » 12 Feb 2008 21:12

Tleilax Master B wrote:Yuck, worse than Tub Girl and Goatsy??? Think I'll just avoid that one....

Yeah, and I never imagined anything worse was possible. The human race never ceases to disgust

Crysknife · Post by **Crysknife** » 12 Feb 2008 21:50

GamePlayer wrote:
Tleilax Master B wrote:Yuck, worse than Tub Girl and Goatsy??? Think I'll just avoid that one....
Yeah, and I never imagined anything worse was possible. The human race never ceases to disgust

There are far, far worse things on the net than any of these.

SandChigger · Post by **SandChigger** » 12 Feb 2008 21:53

^^^ He knows!

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