election day (United States)

Post by **Omphalos** » 03 Dec 2008 16:28

Freakzilla wrote:
SandRider wrote:Georgia's still trying to elect a Senator ....
We did, finally!

Democrats lose Georgia senate race and 60-seat majority

Basically, the Democrats need 60 votes of the possible 100 (2 from each state) to avoid Republican filibustering. They had 59 after the General Election but in the Georgia Senate race no candidate got the greater than 50% of votes required, so we had a run-off yesterday.

A "Supermajority" would have left the Democrats unchecked in the Senate.

The first thing I thought as I was driving home last night when I heard this was "Freak will be proud!"

Post by **Freakzilla** » 03 Dec 2008 16:39

You wouldn't believe the media blitz that's being going on here for the past month, I'm so sick of the "the other candidate eats babies" commercials.

I'm just glad its over.

Mandy · Post by **Mandy** » 03 Dec 2008 20:43

I'm glad the Dems don't have a super majority. Neither side should ever have that much power.

Post by **Freakzilla** » 07 Jan 2009 16:59

Obama clock:

http://obamaclock.org/

SandRider · Post by **SandRider** » 07 Jan 2009 17:02

yeah, that thing's off about four years.

that's a countdown to first chance to unseat him.

I'm actually relieved, Freak, altho I know you're a much better person than
the average poster at stormfront.org, who have an "assassination pool"
going.

(there's a rule there too that you can't do the deed yourself just to win the pool)

Post by **Freakzilla** » 07 Jan 2009 17:15

SandRider wrote:(there's a rule there too that you can't do the deed yourself just to win the pool)

A "cover your ass" statement if I ever saw one.

[edit] You'd think that if the racists wanted him dead they'd do it before he was sworn in, that way we will still not have had a (half-)black president.

SandRider · Post by **SandRider** » 07 Jan 2009 17:23

I've had alot of experiance with the "movement" in my life, the Klan,
the Aryan Nations, AB, The Order, League of the South, Sword and Arm
of the Lord, all the little pop-up Nazis, and I've seen one thing in common:

They all try to lug each other up to do the deeds.

SandChigger · Post by **SandChigger** » 07 Jan 2009 19:33

Stupid.

SandRider · Post by **SandRider** » 07 Jan 2009 21:41

They're angry and feel impotent in today's society.

They're angry and want to do something about it, but don't
want to go to jail over it.

They churn out real powerful propaganda in the hopes some
weak-minded patsy will act out their desires.

Just like Tim McViegh acted out Bill Pierce's fantasies.

{Pierce wrote the "Turner Diaries" under the name of Andrew MacDonald}

Post by **Freakzilla** » 08 Jan 2009 09:44

I think it was yesterday I heard Niel Bortz call Obama our "American Idol President", what a good description.

Post by **Freakzilla** » 08 Jan 2009 11:25

Just to avoid confusion I thought to inform you that there will be a redefining of terms for the next four years.

The term "welfare" will be replaced with "tax cuts". Even if you do not pay taxes and you get a check from the government it will still be called a tax cut. This is neccessary in order to keep Obama's campaign promise of a tax cut for 95% of Americans.

Thank you.

This has been a public service announcement.

A Thing of Eternity · Post by **A Thing of Eternity** » 08 Jan 2009 17:50

Freakzilla wrote:Just to avoid confusion I thought to inform you that there will be a redefining of terms for the next four years.

The term "welfare" will be replaced with "tax cuts". Even if you do not pay taxes and you get a check from the government it will still be called a tax cut. This is neccessary in order to keep Obama's campaign promise of a tax cut for 95% of Americans.

Thank you.

This has been a public service announcement.

I'm going to enjoy reading your posts about this for the next 8 years!

moreh_yeladim · Post by **moreh_yeladim** » 12 Jan 2009 02:28

SandRider wrote:I've had alot of experiance with the "movement" in my life, the Klan,
the Aryan Nations, AB, The Order, League of the South, Sword and Arm
of the Lord, all the little pop-up Nazis, and I've seen one thing in common:

They all try to lug each other up to do the deeds.

Why in Hell do you have so much experience with white supremacists?

Just to avoid confusion I thought to inform you that there will be a redefining of terms for the next four years.

The term "welfare" will be replaced with "tax cuts". Even if you do not pay taxes and you get a check from the government it will still be called a tax cut. This is neccessary in order to keep Obama's campaign promise of a tax cut for 95% of Americans.

Thank you.

This has been a public service announcement.

Ah, so you really think the USA will finally get the social services worthy of a First World nation? Personally I think no chance. As the 2006-2008 period of Democratic majority in the Congress showed, Americans would really rather get nothing done and languish into the possible Second Great Depression than help other people through the common tool of government.

SandRider · Post by **SandRider** » 12 Jan 2009 03:24

I'm a 48-year member of the Sons of Confederate Veterans. My daddy was a Klansman.
I have Klansmen in my family tree going back to 1866.
Several of my brothers were Klansmen in the 60s and early 70s, until the disbanding of the
Fifth Empire. Several of their children, various other younger family members and so
forth have been and are still involved in the newer White Supremacist movements.

I do living history re-enactments, Confederate Calvary, etc. Many of those people I consider
good friends are unfortunely involved with the 6th Empire Klan, League of the South, etc.

I keeps tabs on the new developments - I have an active account on stormfront.org, the
most active of the new movement's message boards. I think it's necessary to know who
these people are and what they are thinking, if we are to ever have any positive influence on
them.

For instance, up in Oklahoma a few years ago, one man tried to link up his SCV camp
with the League of the South and the Southern Independance Party. But keeping track
of him, and proving the real agenda of the LoS & SIP, we (my friends in the SCV) were
able to revoke that camp's SCV charter and expel those people.

If you've read any of my posts, you know I'm a very radical progressive Democrat, original
hippie, worked the Obama capaign last year and all that. I'm also the descendant of
Confederate Veterans and a Southern Man. These things aren't as incompatible as conventional
wisdom would lead you to believe.

My work for the SCV has taken me all over the South, to little backwoods cemeteries to set
up markers on the graves of Confederate Veterans and doing genealogical research, giving
talks and presentations to schools and groups and so on. One of my primary responsibilities,
as I see it, is to present the SCV to the public as the organization it truly is. This often involves
explaining just exactly why we aren't the Klan.

So I know alot about it for a variety of reasons. I'm not ashamed of any of my family history,
nor particularily proud - it's just history, and as a "living history re-enactor" I have an obligation
to present that history as accurately and truthfully as possible.

As far as my family goes that are still involved with "the movement" - well, most of them were
stupid before they were born. So I didn't hold any hope for them, anyway.

Post by **Freakzilla** » 12 Jan 2009 10:04

moreh_yeladim wrote:
Just to avoid confusion I thought to inform you that there will be a redefining of terms for the next four years.

The term "welfare" will be replaced with "tax cuts". Even if you do not pay taxes and you get a check from the government it will still be called a tax cut. This is neccessary in order to keep Obama's campaign promise of a tax cut for 95% of Americans.

Thank you.

This has been a public service announcement.
Ah, so you really think the USA will finally get the social services worthy of a First World nation? Personally I think no chance. As the 2006-2008 period of Democratic majority in the Congress showed, Americans would really rather get nothing done and languish into the possible Second Great Depression than help other people through the common tool of government.

Hell no. We'll be lucky if he doesn't give away the whole store. He's already breaking campaign promises and he isn't even in office yet:

“I want to be realistic here, not everything that we talked about during the campaign are we going to be able to do on the pace we had hoped...”
~PEBO

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid= ... 0pivz7p0Sk

chanilover · Post by **chanilover** » 13 Jan 2009 03:14

Did you see the talking monkey Bush saying how the "burdens of office" are exaggerated? I suppose if you're too fucking stupid to have a conscience then the burdens of what he did shouldn't bother him too much.

What he said about the insanity in Gaza was so monstrously stupid it was almost like watching a comedian doing a parody of Bush.

Good riddance to that piece of trash.

SandChigger · Post by **SandChigger** » 13 Jan 2009 07:20

Quite.

Of course there will be no shortage of cretins to miss him.

Schu · Post by **Schu** » 13 Jan 2009 09:57

I have a living grandmother (well, just barely) that is literally a nazi, so I completely understand the "not ashamed nor proud" thing: it's just my origins.

Well, I'm ashamed of her as someone that I have to associate with and her views that she frequently talks about, but not as my ancestor.

On another note, I can't think of an SCV as anything except the worker unit from the fabulous, relatively venerable (and soon to be sequelled) computer game Starcraft.

Post by **Freakzilla** » 13 Jan 2009 09:59

SandChigger wrote:Quite.

Of course there will be no shortage of cretins to miss him.

We'll miss Bush after Obama redistributes all our money to bums. It'll be a good thing to impiment his welfare state, since we won't have any money.

A Thing of Eternity · Post by **A Thing of Eternity** » 13 Jan 2009 11:53

Freakzilla wrote:
SandChigger wrote:Quite.

Of course there will be no shortage of cretins to miss him.
We'll miss Bush after Obama redistributes all our money to bums. It'll be a good thing to impiment his welfare state, since we won't have any money.

Oh you.

This welfare state you're worried about just isn't going to happen, this is still the USA we're talking about. He's not even going to get close to the kind of taxing and social services we have up here, and that hasn't resulted in anything even really resembling a welfare state. You, my friend, may be over-reacting a wee bit.

Plus, since most politicians (even the "good" ones) don't do half the things they promise to, you really don't have anything to be worried about!

And, didn't you say something about supporting the president no matter who they are when someone asked whether you acually supported Bush? So - start supporting your new president!

(I'm just bugging you)

Post by **Freakzilla** » 13 Jan 2009 12:16

A Thing of Eternity wrote:
Freakzilla wrote:
SandChigger wrote:Quite.

Of course there will be no shortage of cretins to miss him.
We'll miss Bush after Obama redistributes all our money to bums. It'll be a good thing to impiment his welfare state, since we won't have any money.
Oh you. This welfare state you're worried about just isn't going to happen, this is still the USA we're talking about. He's not even going to get close to the kind of taxing and social services we have up here, and that hasn't resulted in anything even really resembling a welfare state. You, my friend, may be over-reacting a wee bit.

Plus, since most politicians (even the "good" ones) don't do half the things they promise to, you really don't have anything to be worried about!

I just heard about another broken campaign promise on the news (not FOX either!).

Businesses that save jobs or create jobs will NOT be getting the $3,000 tax credit he promised.

Blaze of glory...

And, didn't you say something about supporting the president no matter who they are when someone asked whether you acually supported Bush? So - start supporting your new president! (I'm just bugging you)

That's Army brainwashing for you! Bush is still our president, though.

But seriously, supporting him as our president doesn't mean I have to agree with every policy. I don't have to like him as a person, either. I also consider it an American responsibility to voice your grievances.

But let me tell you what really happened in November:

51% of us voted to take the other 49%'s money. That 49% is going to continually grow smaller untill there are no rich people to take money from.

GamePlayer · Post by **GamePlayer** » 13 Jan 2009 12:55

In a way, you gotta admire going after the rich. There's no faster way of changing things in our "democracies" (chortle) than to attack the rich. Tax the poor (read; middle class) and nothing changes. Tax the rich, suddenly there's an uproar and a huge demand for change. Sounds like a plan to me

Post by **Freakzilla** » 13 Jan 2009 13:17

Oh there's going to be change alright...

Post by **Freakzilla** » 13 Jan 2009 14:37

"This is worse than a divorce... I've lost half of my net worth and I still have my wife.."

A different perspective on the bailout... Back in 1990, the Government seized the Mustang Ranch brothel in Nevada for tax evasion and, as required by law, tried to run it. They failed and it closed. Now we are trusting the economy of our country to a pack of nit-wits who couldn't make money running a whore house and selling booze?

Post by **Freakzilla** » 13 Jan 2009 15:39

The Pentagon said on Tuesday that 61 former detainees from its military prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, appear to have returned to terrorism since their release from custody.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090113/ts_ ... guantanamo

But that's nothing, Obama's going to let 'em all go next week!

WOOHOO!

J A C U R U T U

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