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Ha! Chateau R'lyeh, "It's Fhtagn!"Ampoliros wrote:you should add a vineyard out in the ocean

Leto II is gone for good, except for OM. The "pearl" was just that; a miniscule portion of what Leto was, and not a compressed version of the whole. The pearl that the worms have do not make them Leto, or in any way similar to him.
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Kevin J Anderson @TheKJA
So, final outline for Saga of Shadows #1 is 122 pages. Almost a first draft!
I fail to understand how an outline for ANY novel, even if it is War and Peace, can be 122 pages. Isn't an outline supposed to be very brief, and at most, describing each scene in a sentence...? Like five-ten pages at most for a decent-sized novel?
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Remember that this is but one step before near-perfect prose is produced. You cannot just wing that shit, man.Sandwurm88 wrote:Kevin J Anderson @TheKJA
So, final outline for Saga of Shadows #1 is 122 pages. Almost a first draft!
I fail to understand how an outline for ANY novel, even if it is War and Peace, can be 122 pages. Isn't an outline supposed to be very brief, and at most, describing each scene in a sentence...? Like five-ten pages at most for a decent-sized novel?
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Read the wikipedia page for his saga mess, and you wont ask that question. To keep track of all the worlds and character crap he created for it, 122 page outline seems small for any new endeavor in that world again.Sandwurm88 wrote:Kevin J Anderson @TheKJA
So, final outline for Saga of Shadows #1 is 122 pages. Almost a first draft!
I fail to understand how an outline for ANY novel, even if it is War and Peace, can be 122 pages. Isn't an outline supposed to be very brief, and at most, describing each scene in a sentence...? Like five-ten pages at most for a decent-sized novel?
NO matter how many pages he uses for outline or books, it will be senseless hollow garbage.
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Don't forget that he's a lying piece of crap who's impressed by numbers. (even numbers he made up/length=quality)trang wrote:Read the wikipedia page for his saga mess, and you wont ask that question. To keep track of all the worlds and character crap he created for it, 122 page outline seems small for any new endeavor in that world again.Sandwurm88 wrote:Kevin J Anderson @TheKJA
So, final outline for Saga of Shadows #1 is 122 pages. Almost a first draft!
I fail to understand how an outline for ANY novel, even if it is War and Peace, can be 122 pages. Isn't an outline supposed to be very brief, and at most, describing each scene in a sentence...? Like five-ten pages at most for a decent-sized novel?
NO matter how many pages he uses for outline or books, it will be senseless hollow garbage.
edit; ...with the right teacher and a few hundred years, naw- he'd still be a hack.
Leto II is gone for good, except for OM. The "pearl" was just that; a miniscule portion of what Leto was, and not a compressed version of the whole. The pearl that the worms have do not make them Leto, or in any way similar to him.
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He probably writes a 1-page outline for each chapter, then fills in the 'details' and pads that with at least 10% repetition.
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Then he adds adjectives and adverbs.Ampoliros wrote:He probably writes a 1-page outline for each chapter, then fills in the 'details' and pads that with at least 10% repetition.
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And lightsabers.Freakzilla wrote:Then he adds adjectives and adverbs.Ampoliros wrote:He probably writes a 1-page outline for each chapter, then fills in the 'details' and pads that with at least 10% repetition.
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That used to be my technique for essays at school, write just the basic structure,
intro
pros
cons
conclusion
then for each pro find its con to flesh out your argumentation, then all you had to do was inject some filling and tada, 3 page essay, bland as fuck but it followed the blueprint for unimaginative (or lazy) students.
It seems the hack of universes hasn't evolved beyond that point, like a teenager he doesn't care much about anything but still wants to be rewarded for his non-efforts.
intro
pros
cons
conclusion
then for each pro find its con to flesh out your argumentation, then all you had to do was inject some filling and tada, 3 page essay, bland as fuck but it followed the blueprint for unimaginative (or lazy) students.
It seems the hack of universes hasn't evolved beyond that point, like a teenager he doesn't care much about anything but still wants to be rewarded for his non-efforts.
Spice is the worm's gonads.
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"Sheep require fences. Humans do not."—Gilbertus Albans, MENTATS OF DUNE.



Freakzilla - "Apparently we can only aspire to be the 13th biggest Dune fan since we are not family or in the HLP."
Byron - "Are you trying to irk me?"
Byron - "Are you trying to irk me?"
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Coincidence? I think not.


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Sandrider: "Keith went to Bobo's for a weekend of drinking, watched some DVDs,
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He sure doesn't understand cause and effect. Maybe he told them that he would be reading from one of his books and this was the response.Serkanner wrote:Coincidence? I think not.
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So to give credit where it's due, I actually thought the Mayan Apocalypse/montezumas revenge gag was pretty funny.
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Hunchback Jack wrote:So to give credit where it's due, I actually thought the Mayan Apocalypse/montezumas revenge gag was pretty funny.
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This is KJA. Effect comes first, and more often than not the cause has nothing to do if not opposite of its effect.
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Keith's been real busy on 'Mentwats' recently:
December 26 - Now to do 3rd edit of MENTWATS OF DUNE—160,500 words.
January 10 - MENTWATS OF DUNE draft 3 edit, up to p423 (of 644).
January 13 - 102 pages left to edit in MENTWATS OF DUNE.
January 14 - 15 more pages to edit in MENTWATS OF DUNE.
January 15 - MENTWATS OF DUNE, draft 3, sent off to Brian Herbert.
Don't you just love the care and attention he takes to make sure every word, phrase and sentence is just perfect -
December 26 - Now to do 3rd edit of MENTWATS OF DUNE—160,500 words.
January 10 - MENTWATS OF DUNE draft 3 edit, up to p423 (of 644).
January 13 - 102 pages left to edit in MENTWATS OF DUNE.
January 14 - 15 more pages to edit in MENTWATS OF DUNE.
January 15 - MENTWATS OF DUNE, draft 3, sent off to Brian Herbert.
Don't you just love the care and attention he takes to make sure every word, phrase and sentence is just perfect -

Freakzilla - "Apparently we can only aspire to be the 13th biggest Dune fan since we are not family or in the HLP."
Byron - "Are you trying to irk me?"
Byron - "Are you trying to irk me?"
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Aww, I'd hoped the SCATtering, idea would have got on.
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Mentwats... I approve. 
Edit: Especially since it's being written by someone nominally a man but completely a cunt.

Edit: Especially since it's being written by someone nominally a man but completely a cunt.
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Glad to hear it I was worried about her bout of influenza.
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Who's Fannie? (Or, whose fanny?)
The Other, Better Less-Hirsute Half?
The Other, Better Less-Hirsute Half?

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I was gonna do a joke on that name when I remember that whipping star 
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That is a trick question isn't it?SandChigger wrote:Who's Fannie? (Or, whose fanny?)
The Other, Better Less-Hirsute Half?
Spice is the worm's gonads.