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A LIST, BY VIRTUE OF BEING A LIST, IS ALREADY ORGANIZED.
It may however, not be optimized.
It may however, not be optimized.
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- Sardaukar Capt
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Some other priceless Tweets from the Twit and my thoughts on ones previously posted here:
KJA editing and "publishing" Frank Herbert works.
KJA =
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No wonder his books have so much in common with movies (steal from them). Editing & "writing" while watching DVDs at the same time. I bet that's how Hemingway did it to.@TheKJA
Blue Box rentals today: IN TIME and CONTAGION. Will have lots of hours keying in Rebecca's markups on the HELLHOLE AWAKENING manuscript.
12:09 PM - 2 Mar 12
So for him, GalaxyFest, a media and literature convention, is also a time to "write" and edit 3 books. He is truly a Mentat among turds.@TheKJA
Decided to extend the writing/editing retreat by a day. Guess I shouldn't have brought *three* book manuscripts along...
10:06 PM - 1 Mar 12
He is the Mirror Universe version of FH for sure. Frank would spend years researching and planning a book. KJA, a giant among ants, vomits one out in days and thinks that someone to be so proud of.@TheKJA
Once again, finished writing draft of an entire novel faster than guys-in-ties can finish a contract. Guess I'm not getting paid by the hour
4:27 PM - 19 Feb 12

@TheKJA
Keying in last correx and formatting for Frank Herbert's SOUL CATCHER. Will be back in print at last soon from wordfirepress.com
10:11 PM - 17 Feb 12
The fucking Apocalypse has come. @TheKJA
Watched REAL STEEL while keying in corrections to Frank Herbert's never-published novel HIGH-OPP. Doing double-duty.
11:16 PM - 29 Feb 12

KJA =


The name Atreides was also consciously chosen. It is the family name of Agamemnon. Says Herbert, "I wanted a sense of monumental aristocracy, but with tragedy hanging over them--and in our culture, Agamemnon personifies that."
Frank Herbert by Tim O'Reilly
http://tim.oreilly.com/herbert/
Ghanima said. "We Atreides go back to Agamemnon..."
Distracted, Irulan asked: "Who's Agamemnon?"
Children of Dune by Frank Herbert
WTF? A BG forgets the Titans?!
Frank Herbert by Tim O'Reilly
http://tim.oreilly.com/herbert/
Ghanima said. "We Atreides go back to Agamemnon..."
Distracted, Irulan asked: "Who's Agamemnon?"
Children of Dune by Frank Herbert
WTF? A BG forgets the Titans?!

- Nekhrun
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Nope, just by the oft repeated word.@TheKJA
Once again, finished writing draft of an entire novel faster than guys-in-ties can finish a contract. Guess I'm not getting paid by the hour
4:27 PM - 19 Feb 12
Finally Frank can get the respect he deserves. @TheKJA
Watched REAL STEEL while keying in corrections to Frank Herbert's never-published novel HIGH-OPP. Doing double-duty.
11:16 PM - 29 Feb 12
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I have just died a little. It can not become more horrible than this. I usually do not wish anybody to suffer or die of a horrible disease or accident ... but Kevin J. Anderson is the exception. The HATRED is still growing. @TheKJA
Watched REAL STEEL while keying in corrections to Frank Herbert's never-published novel HIGH-OPP. Doing double-duty.
11:16 PM - 29 Feb 12
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Sandrider: "Keith went to Bobo's for a weekend of drinking, watched some DVDs,
and wrote a Dune Novel."
“There is no escape—we pay for the violence of our ancestors.”
Sandrider: "Keith went to Bobo's for a weekend of drinking, watched some DVDs,
and wrote a Dune Novel."
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Actually I see this as good news. For a bit I was scared he would see it as his duty to smear his greasy fingerprints all over this little project - but this makes it sound that he can't even be bothered to properly try and catch all the typos.Serkanner wrote:I have just died a little. It can not become more horrible than this. I usually do not wish anybody to suffer or die of a horrible disease or accident ... but Kevin J. Anderson is the exception. The HATRED is still growing. @TheKJA
Watched REAL STEEL while keying in corrections to Frank Herbert's never-published novel HIGH-OPP. Doing double-duty.
11:16 PM - 29 Feb 12

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This is the little cunt playing with us, play him no heed.
- Sardaukar Capt
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Sounds like he's entering Frank's HIGH-OPP manuscript by hand or correcting an OCR scanned version. Without a real editor or whatever is left of true Herbert DNA around to oversee him, I wonder how tempted KJA is to make changes so in his own feeble mind he can say, "I edited Frank Herbert and tightened up his story."
I just
a little in my mouth.
I just

The name Atreides was also consciously chosen. It is the family name of Agamemnon. Says Herbert, "I wanted a sense of monumental aristocracy, but with tragedy hanging over them--and in our culture, Agamemnon personifies that."
Frank Herbert by Tim O'Reilly
http://tim.oreilly.com/herbert/
Ghanima said. "We Atreides go back to Agamemnon..."
Distracted, Irulan asked: "Who's Agamemnon?"
Children of Dune by Frank Herbert
WTF? A BG forgets the Titans?!
Frank Herbert by Tim O'Reilly
http://tim.oreilly.com/herbert/
Ghanima said. "We Atreides go back to Agamemnon..."
Distracted, Irulan asked: "Who's Agamemnon?"
Children of Dune by Frank Herbert
WTF? A BG forgets the Titans?!

- Ampoliros
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This right here sums up the entire reason the OH exist. Would a professional ever admit to doing this? No. @TheKJA
Watched REAL STEEL while keying in corrections to Frank Herbert's never-published novel HIGH-OPP. Doing double-duty.
11:16 PM - 29 Feb 12
KJA can't be bothered to take time to do something properly or even pay attention to the legacy he's raping.
And we can't even be accused of just making this up, IT'S HIS WORDS.
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Kevin J. Anderson cannot touch Frank Herbert's legacy. Frank Herbert's works are Frank Herbert's works. No Brian Herbert, and no Kevin J. Anderson. How will serious literary scholars remember Brian Herbert and Kevin J. Anderson, I wonder? Will they consider McDune when judging Dune? Sometimes, I'm not even sure it matters. Maybe, in the future, thekja will be remembered as one of the greats...Ampoliros wrote:This right here sums up the entire reason the OH exist. Would a professional ever admit to doing this? No. @TheKJA
Watched REAL STEEL while keying in corrections to Frank Herbert's never-published novel HIGH-OPP. Doing double-duty.
11:16 PM - 29 Feb 12
KJA can't be bothered to take time to do something properly or even pay attention to the legacy he's raping.
And we can't even be accused of just making this up, IT'S HIS WORDS.

I bring nothing to the table.
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Maybe you missed the bit about him editing an unpublished FH story? 

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Freakzilla wrote:Maybe you missed the bit about him editing an unpublished FH story?![]()




Well, that story will be tainted... I'm just not sure what to think sometimes...
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- Sardaukar Capt
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If that doesn't tell you who wears the pants in the HLP, then nothing will. It's KJA editing an unpublished FH work. Not a real editor with TOR, not one of the Herberts, and not Brian.
The name Atreides was also consciously chosen. It is the family name of Agamemnon. Says Herbert, "I wanted a sense of monumental aristocracy, but with tragedy hanging over them--and in our culture, Agamemnon personifies that."
Frank Herbert by Tim O'Reilly
http://tim.oreilly.com/herbert/
Ghanima said. "We Atreides go back to Agamemnon..."
Distracted, Irulan asked: "Who's Agamemnon?"
Children of Dune by Frank Herbert
WTF? A BG forgets the Titans?!
Frank Herbert by Tim O'Reilly
http://tim.oreilly.com/herbert/
Ghanima said. "We Atreides go back to Agamemnon..."
Distracted, Irulan asked: "Who's Agamemnon?"
Children of Dune by Frank Herbert
WTF? A BG forgets the Titans?!

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unless I missed something, I believe "publishing" in this case only means
"available as download for e-readers from wordfire.com" .... ??
"available as download for e-readers from wordfire.com" .... ??
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SandRider wrote:unless I missed something, I believe "publishing" in this case only means
"available as download for e-readers from wordfire.com" .... ??
Keith is trying to position himself as a "publisher" now. Building up his retirement and all that. Using Frank's good name to get some cred and in time I bet we will see him expanding the offerings and maybe even have a few "discoveries" from his Superstars Seminar published through his imprint.
Rob
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I hope that's all it means.SandRider wrote:unless I missed something, I believe "publishing" in this case only means
"available as download for e-readers from wordfire.com" .... ??
Sad part is the Herbert family could have published these works on their own through the Kindle and iBooks programs or a host of other ways. Maybe its part if the tard's contract as part of the HLP that he gets to "publish" the unpublished older works of Frank. Or its a payoff for publishing Bri-Bri's crap. Who knows.
The name Atreides was also consciously chosen. It is the family name of Agamemnon. Says Herbert, "I wanted a sense of monumental aristocracy, but with tragedy hanging over them--and in our culture, Agamemnon personifies that."
Frank Herbert by Tim O'Reilly
http://tim.oreilly.com/herbert/
Ghanima said. "We Atreides go back to Agamemnon..."
Distracted, Irulan asked: "Who's Agamemnon?"
Children of Dune by Frank Herbert
WTF? A BG forgets the Titans?!
Frank Herbert by Tim O'Reilly
http://tim.oreilly.com/herbert/
Ghanima said. "We Atreides go back to Agamemnon..."
Distracted, Irulan asked: "Who's Agamemnon?"
Children of Dune by Frank Herbert
WTF? A BG forgets the Titans?!

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KJA's tweet just makes me very, very sad.Ampoliros wrote:This right here sums up the entire reason the OH exist. Would a professional ever admit to doing this? No. @TheKJA
Watched REAL STEEL while keying in corrections to Frank Herbert's never-published novel HIGH-OPP. Doing double-duty.
11:16 PM - 29 Feb 12
KJA editing and publishing the first new novel from Frank Herbert in 25 years is bad enough. The fact that he's editing it while watching a movie is a fucking crime. But the lack of respect and awareness that he's the caretaker of another author's legacy is uttery disgusting.
As far as KJA is concerned, *it's still all about him*.
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We've all expirienced it, no matter how acclimatized or jaded, he just keeps dropping bigger and bigger stupid.I mockingly wrote:"Just another day at the old e-pub, polishing up another while watching a movie before dictahiking twelve chapters at 5000 words each."
Even admitting to ones self that he will surprize you with something lower does not prepare you for when it happens.
He is the suckularity, an infinitely asinine piece of shit, from which, nothing is safe.
Leto II is gone for good, except for OM. The "pearl" was just that; a miniscule portion of what Leto was, and not a compressed version of the whole. The pearl that the worms have do not make them Leto, or in any way similar to him.
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Almost, but not quite: make that 5,000 chapters at twelve words each.D Pope wrote:We've all expirienced it, no matter how acclimatized or jaded, he just keeps dropping bigger and bigger stupid.I mockingly wrote:"Just another day at the old e-pub, polishing up another while watching a movie before dictahiking twelve chapters at 5000 words each."
Even admitting to ones self that he will surprize you with something lower does not prepare you for when it happens.
He is the suckularity, an infinitely asinine piece of shit, from which, nothing is safe.
- Sardaukar Capt
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He doesn't even pretend BH is his writing partner on this pile of pooh anymore does he? lol@TheKJA
Writing "The Story So Far" summary of HELLHOLE for HELLHOLE AWAKENING. Boiling down 500+ pages into 5-10 pages.
11:20 AM - 5 Mar 12
I imagine he did this over an episode of Talk Soup since all he had to do was delete all the repetition and that should bring 500 pgs of one of his books down to 5-10 no problem

Amazing how he feels the need to start the 2nd book of a series with summary of the previous book that has been out for only a year. Pretty much acknowledges no one bothered reading the first book.
I think he missed his calling. He should have been a 70s cartoon "writer": "Meanwhile back at the Legion of Doom............."
By the way, I think its just great that one year after coming out, the hardcover is for sale on Amazon for $3.99 lol. I'm STILL amazed TOR will buy anything from him. But it did have a Herbert name on the cover so maybe that's all it took for TOR.
The name Atreides was also consciously chosen. It is the family name of Agamemnon. Says Herbert, "I wanted a sense of monumental aristocracy, but with tragedy hanging over them--and in our culture, Agamemnon personifies that."
Frank Herbert by Tim O'Reilly
http://tim.oreilly.com/herbert/
Ghanima said. "We Atreides go back to Agamemnon..."
Distracted, Irulan asked: "Who's Agamemnon?"
Children of Dune by Frank Herbert
WTF? A BG forgets the Titans?!
Frank Herbert by Tim O'Reilly
http://tim.oreilly.com/herbert/
Ghanima said. "We Atreides go back to Agamemnon..."
Distracted, Irulan asked: "Who's Agamemnon?"
Children of Dune by Frank Herbert
WTF? A BG forgets the Titans?!

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a moment ago, amazon wrote:42 new from $13.95 13 used from $12.56
Leto II is gone for good, except for OM. The "pearl" was just that; a miniscule portion of what Leto was, and not a compressed version of the whole. The pearl that the worms have do not make them Leto, or in any way similar to him.
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The discount/publisher's clearance bookshop near me was so excited about Hellhole they decided display nearly a full shelf's worth of them.


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haha. Its worse than I thought for Smellhole. The original Hardcover edition is selling new from Amazon directly for $1.63. Both it and the Bargin Price hardcover are still cheaper than the Mass Market Paperback and Kindle editions at $7.99. They are practically giving away that Hardcover.
I guess it makes sense now for him to put in a Summary of the 1st book into the 2nd book since even he knows no one has read the 1st book.
I guess "Brian Herbert" being first on the cover isn't carrying as much juice as having STAR WARS or DUNE on the cover. Pretty much says it all about the authors right there.
I guess it makes sense now for him to put in a Summary of the 1st book into the 2nd book since even he knows no one has read the 1st book.
I guess "Brian Herbert" being first on the cover isn't carrying as much juice as having STAR WARS or DUNE on the cover. Pretty much says it all about the authors right there.
The name Atreides was also consciously chosen. It is the family name of Agamemnon. Says Herbert, "I wanted a sense of monumental aristocracy, but with tragedy hanging over them--and in our culture, Agamemnon personifies that."
Frank Herbert by Tim O'Reilly
http://tim.oreilly.com/herbert/
Ghanima said. "We Atreides go back to Agamemnon..."
Distracted, Irulan asked: "Who's Agamemnon?"
Children of Dune by Frank Herbert
WTF? A BG forgets the Titans?!
Frank Herbert by Tim O'Reilly
http://tim.oreilly.com/herbert/
Ghanima said. "We Atreides go back to Agamemnon..."
Distracted, Irulan asked: "Who's Agamemnon?"
Children of Dune by Frank Herbert
WTF? A BG forgets the Titans?!

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"Second editions are the REAL collectors items with these guys."Sardaukar Capt wrote:haha. Its worse than I thought for Smellhole. The original Hardcover edition is selling new from Amazon directly for $1.63. Both it and the Bargin Price hardcover are still cheaper than the Mass Market Paperback and Kindle editions at $7.99. They are practically giving away that Hardcover.
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Leto II is gone for good, except for OM. The "pearl" was just that; a miniscule portion of what Leto was, and not a compressed version of the whole. The pearl that the worms have do not make them Leto, or in any way similar to him.
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I believe that pearl came from our very own Amp, who was talking about the rarity of one of their books actually getting printed for a second time.D Pope wrote:"Second editions are the REAL collectors items with these guys."Sardaukar Capt wrote:haha. Its worse than I thought for Smellhole. The original Hardcover edition is selling new from Amazon directly for $1.63. Both it and the Bargin Price hardcover are still cheaper than the Mass Market Paperback and Kindle editions at $7.99. They are practically giving away that Hardcover.
-can't remember who i'm quoting
I thought that was sig worthy.