Steve Jobs Dies
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Re: Steve Jobs Dies
I've only seen two interviews with Ballmer, and both were interesting. The first was right after the first iPhone launch, and he was openly skeptical about anyone buying a $600 phone that was not aimed at the business market. That, I think, was not an unreasonable position, given where the phone market was at that time.
What he failed to appreciate was that the phone would get cheaper through AT&T subsidizing the cost, and, more importantly, that people weren't buying a phone so much as a web access device and applications platform with a very user-friendly UI. That's easy to see in hindsight, but at the time, the iPhone did seem expensive for what it was - particularly when a lot of people were expecting the iPhone to be an iPod with a phone.
The second interview was just after the launch of the iPad, and it was more telling. Ballmer was again openly skeptical about the iPad, and said that "everyone will still want a PC" even if the tablet market takes off. This was incredibly short-sighted, I think; tablets like the iPad give people pretty much all the non-business features of a laptop, and are easier to use. A huge segment of the non-business PC market could well shift to tablet-only use, just as many PC gamers shifted to consoles a few years back.
Microsoft has done well in the gaming console space, but have failed to take hold in the three major product spaces that Apple dominate - music players, phones, and tablets.Ballmer's role in Microsoft may not be the same as Jobs' was in Apple, but having him display such a lack of vision in interviews does not make Microsoft look innovative.
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What he failed to appreciate was that the phone would get cheaper through AT&T subsidizing the cost, and, more importantly, that people weren't buying a phone so much as a web access device and applications platform with a very user-friendly UI. That's easy to see in hindsight, but at the time, the iPhone did seem expensive for what it was - particularly when a lot of people were expecting the iPhone to be an iPod with a phone.
The second interview was just after the launch of the iPad, and it was more telling. Ballmer was again openly skeptical about the iPad, and said that "everyone will still want a PC" even if the tablet market takes off. This was incredibly short-sighted, I think; tablets like the iPad give people pretty much all the non-business features of a laptop, and are easier to use. A huge segment of the non-business PC market could well shift to tablet-only use, just as many PC gamers shifted to consoles a few years back.
Microsoft has done well in the gaming console space, but have failed to take hold in the three major product spaces that Apple dominate - music players, phones, and tablets.Ballmer's role in Microsoft may not be the same as Jobs' was in Apple, but having him display such a lack of vision in interviews does not make Microsoft look innovative.
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Wrong.A Thing of Eternity wrote:Oh yes they are, they're just crazy ones. Being Christian doesn't require that you be GOOD at it, just that you believe in it...
Wrong.A Thing of Eternity wrote:IF SOMEONE BELIEVES IN JESUS CHRIST (AS SAVIOUR) THEN THEY ARE CHRISTIAN, END OF STORY.
And, oh yeah, it's too bad about Steve Jobs... oh well.
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Yeah I feel bad about his thread being hijacked by the WBC.
RIP Steve. I loved my ipod touch. (But I love my rooted android more...)
RIP Steve. I loved my ipod touch. (But I love my rooted android more...)
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Well, I guess that's it then.JustSomeGuy wrote:Wrong.A Thing of Eternity wrote:Oh yes they are, they're just crazy ones. Being Christian doesn't require that you be GOOD at it, just that you believe in it...Wrong.A Thing of Eternity wrote:IF SOMEONE BELIEVES IN JESUS CHRIST (AS SAVIOUR) THEN THEY ARE CHRISTIAN, END OF STORY.

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Is it too soon to be Zombie Steve Jobs for Halloween?
All I'd need is a black turtlekneck, jeans and some make-up.
All I'd need is a black turtlekneck, jeans and some make-up.
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What about a white apple, partially eaten, with the name "Steve" on it?

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Wrong.JustSomeGuy wrote:Wrong.A Thing of Eternity wrote:Oh yes they are, they're just crazy ones. Being Christian doesn't require that you be GOOD at it, just that you believe in it...
Wrong.JustSomeGuy wrote:Wrong.A Thing of Eternity wrote:IF SOMEONE BELIEVES IN JESUS CHRIST (AS SAVIOUR) THEN THEY ARE CHRISTIAN, END OF STORY.
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Didn't I start a new topic for this?Spicelon wrote:Wrong.JustSomeGuy wrote:Wrong.A Thing of Eternity wrote:Oh yes they are, they're just crazy ones. Being Christian doesn't require that you be GOOD at it, just that you believe in it...
Wrong.JustSomeGuy wrote:Wrong.A Thing of Eternity wrote:IF SOMEONE BELIEVES IN JESUS CHRIST (AS SAVIOUR) THEN THEY ARE CHRISTIAN, END OF STORY.
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Oh well, oh well, oh well.
Jobs, who once memorably described death as "very likely the single best invention of life", departed this world with a lingering look at his family and the simple, if mysterious, observation: "Oh wow. Oh wow. Oh wow."
I thought it was a joke but no, people are seriously pondering the meaning of an equivalent to "argh"Although the precise meaning of Jobs's ultimate utterance is hard to pin down, it will further fuel interest in a man who continues to captivate the business and creative worlds even after death.
Oh well, oh well, oh well.
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He got to heaven and saw that they were using Windows... oh wait... THAT'S NOT HEAVEN! 

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Too soon?
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Kurt Vonnegut - Slaughterhouse 5 ... BRILLIANT novel.Omphalos wrote:And so it goes.
"... the mystery of life isn't a problem to solve but a reality to experience."
“There is no escape—we pay for the violence of our ancestors.”
Sandrider: "Keith went to Bobo's for a weekend of drinking, watched some DVDs,
and wrote a Dune Novel."
“There is no escape—we pay for the violence of our ancestors.”
Sandrider: "Keith went to Bobo's for a weekend of drinking, watched some DVDs,
and wrote a Dune Novel."
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Yep. Actually Vonnegut worked that little phrase into a lot of his later writings too. He uses it everytime someone dies, epsecially for those who die for stupid reasons.Serkanner wrote:Kurt Vonnegut - Slaughterhouse 5 ... BRILLIANT novel.Omphalos wrote:And so it goes.