Jᴀᴄᴜʀᴜᴛᴜ - Tʜᴇ Cᴀsᴛ Oᴜᴛ

Have we discussed this before?

How do you pronounce/say Dune years like 10,193 AG?

"Ten-thousand one-hundred ninety-three ay-gee" is a frickin' mouthful, no?

Whereas "one-oh-one ninety-three ay-gee", while still longish, rolls off the tongue a bit more easily. And it follows the common pattern of separating year names into two numbers, the first counting centuries.

I guess this could be made into a poll thang, but I can't be bothered at the moment.

(It's late and I got to thinking about this while making that last PoD post. )

"Ten One-Ninety Three."

Not the best way, perhaps, but it puts an audible break right where the comma is (Ten-[Slight Pause]-One-Ninety-Three).

Blick.



(Oooh! Triumph on Conan tonight?! Poop ON! )

Ahem. What was I saying? Oh yeah:

Gah!



In the chronologies I make for my own purposes, I tend to leave out the comma in the year-names, but to include them when referring to numbers of years. So

10193 AG was 12 years earlier than 10205 AG. Leto II ruled for over 3,500 years.

We don't include a comma in 2008 CE/AD, so why put one in 10,193 AG? Does it really serve any purpose?

Diez mil ciento noventa y tres

Ghost wrote:Diez mil ciento noventa y tres

Please use English.

But that is how i say, in spanish not english

Sorry, Ghost, but in this context the only relevance of the Spanish way of saying the number would be if you have two or more alternatives, like we do in English.

For example, the current year is either

"Two-thousand (and) eight" or "Twenty-oh-eight".

It's my contention that the second version for Dune years should be considered an extension (however extreme) of the normal case and thought of as 101-93 (=the ninety-third year of the 102nd century).

Does Spanish have an alternative pronunciation like the second English version?

Ok, no problem.
It must be: ten thousands - one hundred ninety three.
We don't use the second version, we always go for the ''thousand'' way

This year is '' two thousand eight''

Personally I've always said "Ten thousand one ninety three"

Same - but possibly because my first introduction to Dune was the 1984 monologue at the beginning of the original dune game

Isn't it possible that the man on the Arrakis street would refer to "the summer of 'one-ninety-three" in his everyday conversations? 10,000 years is a long time.

I think the two-thousand-and-eight thing might be a 'noughties' phenomenon. During the course of the Olympics I'm sure I heard sentences like:

"In twenty-twelve we'll look back at two-thousand-and-eight..."

We're being kinda dumb, when you really think about it.

After all, we say "eighteen-oh-three" (Ohio admitted to Union) and "nineteen-oh-eight" (I was born ).

Twenty-oh-eight just makes sense.

But yeah, maybe Dunizens would drop the ten-thousand part.

I've never heard someone say twenty-oh-eight up here, though that does roll off the tongue better than two-thousand-and-eight.

A Thing of Eternity wrote:I've never heard someone say twenty-oh-eight up here, though that does roll off the tongue better than two-thousand-and-eight.

come 2020, it'll get really easy:

"twenty-twenty"

"twenty-twenty-one"

Drunken Idaho wrote:

A Thing of Eternity wrote:I've never heard someone say twenty-oh-eight up here, though that does roll off the tongue better than two-thousand-and-eight.

come 2020, it'll get really easy:

"twenty-twenty"

"twenty-twenty-one"

What about twenty-ten?

TheDukester wrote:"Ten One-Ninety Three."

Not the best way, perhaps, but it puts an audible break right where the comma is (Ten-[Slight Pause]-One-Ninety-Three).

That's how I've always read it.

DuneFishUK wrote:

Drunken Idaho wrote:

A Thing of Eternity wrote:I've never heard someone say twenty-oh-eight up here, though that does roll off the tongue better than two-thousand-and-eight.

come 2020, it'll get really easy:

"twenty-twenty"

"twenty-twenty-one"

What about twenty-ten?

Ohhh nice. And not too far off either. 2012 ain't bad either, but unfortunately that's when the world ends, according to the Mayans.

But as for 10,193 I can't say I ever really "pronounced" it in my head. I kind of just absorbed it as a numerical value.

One-oh-one-nine-one. No "ninety." Just like you would say an address.

Gah.

There's no difference (besides one hundred years) between nineteen-oh-eight and twenty-oh-eight.

And yes, it gets easier from 2010 because the first of the last two digits ceases to be a (leading) zero.

Gah.

Twenty-oh-eight just sounds silly. The double zero is weird, and "two thousand eight" is just as many syllables. it sounds less silly, so I use that. There's no difference between "nineteen oh eight" and "twenty oh eight," but there's a huge difference between "one thousand nine hundred eight" and "two thousand eight."

(I would also use ten-one-ninety-three, because I like splitting up numbers in a way that makes sense in my head.)

On the note of this whole dates and pronunciation thing, I'm reminded of someone once referring to the class of 2010 as "oh-tens." I got a kick out of that. Even if it might be technically true this century. Whatever.

Well having one less digit changes it. I say two thousand eight too for the year. but if I am giving an address I would say "two, double zero eight." Or "twenty-seven oh five," for 2705.

I haven't called a zero an "oh" since basic radio procedure in the army.

Phaedrus wrote:
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"one thousand nine hundred eight" and "two thousand eight."

<snip>

AFAIK any non american would say "one thousand nine hundred AND eight" or "two thousand AND eight."

since we watch so much of your tv in Aus. i guess I'm pretty used to it, but it still sounds pretty weird to me

SimonH wrote:

Phaedrus wrote:
<snip>

"one thousand nine hundred eight" and "two thousand eight."

<snip>

AFAIK any non american would say "one thousand nine hundred AND eight" or "two thousand AND eight."

since we watch so much of your tv in Aus. i guess I'm pretty used to it, but it still sounds pretty weird to me

Sometime's I almost forget the and, just sneaks in as a quick nn sound.

A Thing of Eternity wrote:

SimonH wrote:

Phaedrus wrote:
<snip>

"one thousand nine hundred eight" and "two thousand eight."

<snip>

AFAIK any non american would say "one thousand nine hundred AND eight" or "two thousand AND eight."

since we watch so much of your tv in Aus. i guess I'm pretty used to it, but it still sounds pretty weird to me

Sometime's I almost forget the and, just sneaks in as a quick nn sound.

yeah ok - after writing that I had no idea if you extra-north americans did or not

SimonH wrote:

Phaedrus wrote:
<snip>

"one thousand nine hundred eight" and "two thousand eight."

<snip>

AFAIK any non american would say "one thousand nine hundred AND eight" or "two thousand AND eight."

since we watch so much of your tv in Aus. i guess I'm pretty used to it, but it still sounds pretty weird to me

The only time I use the word "and" is when I'm talking to a telephone computer, or when I'm trying to be precise when on the phone with someone I don't know. Otherwise, I say "two thousand eight" for 2008.