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Human Speech Traced to Talking Fish LiveScience Staff
From Don Knotts' portrayle of "Mr. Limpet" to the children's favorite "Nemo" and the tuna-pitching character in the "Sorry, Charlie" commercials, we all have seen fish that can talk. But that's just fiction, right?
Well ...
Researchers say real fish can communicate with sound, too. And they say (the researchers, that is) that your speech skills and, in fact, all sound production in vertebrates can be traced back to this ability in fish. (You got your ears from fish, too.)
The new study was led by Andrew Bass (we did not make this up) of Cornell University.
The scientists mapped developing brain cells in newly hatched midshipman fish larvae and compared them to those of other species. They found that the chirp of a bird, the bark of a dog and all the other sounds that come out of animals' mouths are the products of the neural circuitry likely laid down hundreds of millions of years ago with the hums and grunts of fish.
"Fish have all the same parts of the brain that you do," Bass explained.
His team traced the development of the connection from the midshipman fish's vocal muscles to a cluster of neurons located in a compartment between the back of its brain and the front of its spinal cord. The same part of the brain in more complex vertebrates, such as humans, has a similar function, indicating that it was highly selected for during the course of evolution.
The finding is published in the July 18 issue of the journal Science.
The fish that Bass studied are interesting in their own right.
After building a nest for his potential partner, the male midshipman fish calls to nearby females by contracting his swim bladder, the air-filled sac fish use to maintain buoyancy. The sound is a hum, something like a long-winded foghorn. Female midshipman dig it, and they only approach a male's nest if he makes this call.
During midsipman mating season, houseboat owners in San Francisco Bay have complained that their homes vibrate from the humming, which sound like a high-speed motor running underwater.
By better understanding how these fish hear, the study offers new avenues to explore the causes of human deafness, the researchers say.
Human Speech Traced to Talking Fish LiveScience Staff
From Don Knotts' portrayle of "Mr. Limpet" to the children's favorite "Nemo" and the tuna-pitching character in the "Sorry, Charlie" commercials, we all have seen fish that can talk. But that's just fiction, right?
Well ...
Researchers say real fish can communicate with sound, too. And they say (the researchers, that is) that your speech skills and, in fact, all sound production in vertebrates can be traced back to this ability in fish. (You got your ears from fish, too.)
The new study was led by Andrew Bass (we did not make this up) of Cornell University.
The scientists mapped developing brain cells in newly hatched midshipman fish larvae and compared them to those of other species. They found that the chirp of a bird, the bark of a dog and all the other sounds that come out of animals' mouths are the products of the neural circuitry likely laid down hundreds of millions of years ago with the hums and grunts of fish.
"Fish have all the same parts of the brain that you do," Bass explained.
His team traced the development of the connection from the midshipman fish's vocal muscles to a cluster of neurons located in a compartment between the back of its brain and the front of its spinal cord. The same part of the brain in more complex vertebrates, such as humans, has a similar function, indicating that it was highly selected for during the course of evolution.
The finding is published in the July 18 issue of the journal Science.
The fish that Bass studied are interesting in their own right.
After building a nest for his potential partner, the male midshipman fish calls to nearby females by contracting his swim bladder, the air-filled sac fish use to maintain buoyancy. The sound is a hum, something like a long-winded foghorn. Female midshipman dig it, and they only approach a male's nest if he makes this call.
During midsipman mating season, houseboat owners in San Francisco Bay have complained that their homes vibrate from the humming, which sound like a high-speed motor running underwater.
By better understanding how these fish hear, the study offers new avenues to explore the causes of human deafness, the researchers say.
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...Well maybe Leto II reached back to his fishy other memories in the naming of his army?
But probably not.
...Well maybe Leto II reached back to his fishy other memories in the naming of his army?
But probably not.
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Its my theory that white people evolved from fish, and black people evolved from monkies. And Mexicans eveolved from beans.
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It's my theory that you have a desperate need for attention.
One day, you'll understand that trying to shock and trying to entertain are two different things. Until that day arrives, you need to be assured of one thing: you are not funny.
One day, you'll understand that trying to shock and trying to entertain are two different things. Until that day arrives, you need to be assured of one thing: you are not funny.
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Re: on Human evolution
Maybe a fish told him to type this? They are quite cunning, those bastards.Sole Man wrote:Its my theory that white people evolved from fish, and black people evolved from monkies. And Mexicans eveolved from beans.
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I'm not trying to shock you or anything, I'm just telling you a joke. So you don't think its funny, So what? That's not my problem.TheDukester wrote:It's my theory that you have a desperate need for attention.
One day, you'll understand that trying to shock and trying to entertain are two different things. Until that day arrives, you need to be assured of one thing: you are not funny.
I thought it was funny and that's all I care about.
Gotta go back to being bored now...
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Plus I'm trying to inform you of a scientific theory of mine.
Not everything is supposedd to be funny.
Not everything is supposedd to be funny.
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who ? Jerry Lewis or Sloey ? or orald ? I'm confused ....
oh hell, I'm chatting again.
ummm lessee Golden Path, Fish Speakers ...
umm - ok - if Leto had died and Ghani would've had to taken up
the Golden Path, would the Fish Speakers have been men ?
oh hell, I'm chatting again.
ummm lessee Golden Path, Fish Speakers ...
umm - ok - if Leto had died and Ghani would've had to taken up
the Golden Path, would the Fish Speakers have been men ?
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Probably would've been sexy women.SandRider wrote:who ? Jerry Lewis or Sloey ? or orald ? I'm confused ....
oh hell, I'm chatting again.
ummm lessee Golden Path, Fish Speakers ...
umm - ok - if Leto had died and Ghani would've had to taken up
the Golden Path, would the Fish Speakers have been men ?
Actually, since they should have access to the same memories (though that would be debatable b/c Ghani would prob not have tried going through her male memories) she might have come to the same decision as Leto, at least about the "idea" of the army.
Their "Golden Paths" probably would have been similar, at least in the beginning; if Leto truly was the stronger of the two then perhaps the Golden Path could have failed if should could not take it as far as Leto, just as Paul's vision of the future wasn't taken as far as Leto's.
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