DUNE DISCUSSION FORUM FOR ORTHODOX HERBERTARIANS
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Canadian Traitor!!!!!!GamePlayer wrote:So have I. It happens when one listens to Rush. You try to hold your tongue long enough to get to the nearest toilet before you start vomiting.SandRider wrote:I've held my tongue on this Rush thing.
would you, Sir, care to refute any or all of the points I've raised here ?SandRider wrote:I've held my tongue on this Rush thing. But here's the argument I've being spewing for, oh, 25 years or more .....
Putting forth YYZ or Red Barchetta as an example, Neil Pert is/was the best drummer in rock music. Period.
Putting forth any piece, Geddy Lee is/was the best bassist in rock music. Period.
Alex ain't too shabby, neither, but he is the weak link, excepting Geddy's voice, which, like Willie, you either love or hate.
Considering the music, then, arrangements & themes, lyrical complexities, &etc, with the sheer technical musical talent, I'll submit that Rush is, in fact, THE GREATEST ROCK BAND OF ALL TIME.
Oh, you're missing out ... it is some outstanding free entertainment.SandRider wrote:I've never really looked at the blog Over There .... my G-D !!
The pictures of the 4-1/4" floppies with "Dune 7" written on them was just too much.TheDukester wrote:Oh, you're missing out ... it is some outstanding free entertainment.SandRider wrote:I've never really looked at the blog Over There .... my G-D !!
I'll start you off with one: Hacky and The Sidekick have hurt feelings and want everyone to stop being meanies:
http://www.dunenovels.com/dune7blog/page21.html
Enjoy!
In "Frank Herbert's own handwriting," too!!!l!1111!! ZOMG!Freakzilla wrote:The pictures of the 4-1/4" floppies with "Dune 7" written on them was just too much.
Which was kind of my point: he was hired to polish it, so if it was awful, then we'd have something to cry about. Since the reviews are mixed, it's more likely (if we're talking extremes) that he turned a turd into an okay movie than that he turned a really good script into a piece of mediocrity - they wouldn't want to end up filming a worse script, after all.GamePlayer wrote:EsperandoAGodot
Reviews for Quantum of Solace have been mixed. But without knowing the specifics of Zetumner's contributions he's pretty much in the clear no matter what happens with the final product. He could have been responsible for the good parts or the bad parts, or had a mix of the two. It's like the ideal KJA situation
Zetumer doesn't get a credit at the start of Quantum of Solace (yes I was lookingEsperandoAGodot wrote:Which was kind of my point: he was hired to polish it, so if it was awful, then we'd have something to cry about. Since the reviews are mixed, it's more likely (if we're talking extremes) that he turned a turd into an okay movie than that he turned a really good script into a piece of mediocrity - they wouldn't want to end up filming a worse script, after all.GamePlayer wrote:EsperandoAGodot
Reviews for Quantum of Solace have been mixed. But without knowing the specifics of Zetumner's contributions he's pretty much in the clear no matter what happens with the final product. He could have been responsible for the good parts or the bad parts, or had a mix of the two. It's like the ideal KJA situation
But as these things usually go, the script was probably in good shape, and so long as we know Zetumer didn't ruin it, we can at least have that much confidence in him.
Frankly - and maybe it's just because I'm a writer - I'm more afraid of Berg than Zetumer.
), so I don't reckon he had much input. The film is has a lot of good bits... but as a whole it just isn't a brilliant as Casino Royale was and suffers a lot from not making any use of the fact it's a Bond film (and all that implies). I don't think that was Zetumer's fault though.That's why they're called ghostwriters.DuneFishUK wrote:Zetumer doesn't get a credit at the start of Quantum of Solace (yes I was looking
I thought ghost writers were ghosts that try to contact little kids and help them solve mysteries.EsperandoAGodot wrote:That's why they're called ghostwriters.DuneFishUK wrote:Zetumer doesn't get a credit at the start of Quantum of Solace (yes I was looking
I though a ghost writer was one of those tablet things you can write on with a magnet...Tleszer wrote:I thought ghost writers were ghosts that try to contact little kids and help them solve mysteries.EsperandoAGodot wrote:That's why they're called ghostwriters.DuneFishUK wrote:Zetumer doesn't get a credit at the start of Quantum of Solace (yes I was looking
EsperandoAGodot wrote:That's why they're called ghostwriters.DuneFishUK wrote:Zetumer doesn't get a credit at the start of Quantum of Solace (yes I was looking
I'm afraid of Berg as well, so far he's risen the hollywood ladder of bile through action movies, seeing him take on a project like Dune i expect to see something resembling Faust having a showdown with the Devil using miniguns and frag grenades.EsperandoAGodot wrote:Which was kind of my point: he was hired to polish it, so if it was awful, then we'd have something to cry about. Since the reviews are mixed, it's more likely (if we're talking extremes) that he turned a turd into an okay movie than that he turned a really good script into a piece of mediocrity - they wouldn't want to end up filming a worse script, after all.GamePlayer wrote:EsperandoAGodot
Reviews for Quantum of Solace have been mixed. But without knowing the specifics of Zetumner's contributions he's pretty much in the clear no matter what happens with the final product. He could have been responsible for the good parts or the bad parts, or had a mix of the two. It's like the ideal KJA situation
But as these things usually go, the script was probably in good shape, and so long as we know Zetumer didn't ruin it, we can at least have that much confidence in him.
Frankly - and maybe it's just because I'm a writer - I'm more afraid of Berg than Zetumer.
Just because that isn't "Faust," doesn't mean that wouldn't be awesome to watch.Seraphan wrote:I'm afraid of Berg as well, so far he's risen the hollywood ladder of bile through action movies, seeing him take on a project like Dune i expect to see something resembling Faust having a showdown with the Devil using miniguns and frag grenades.
).True, and I think we can keep that in mind. Hell, it could be faithful and still be muscular - since any adaptation is a process of selection, it's a matter of what you select. In fact the other day I plotted the entire movie out "hanging the story" on personal shields and their use, figuring out how to tell the story through action sequences...Tleszer wrote:Just because that isn't "Faust," doesn't mean that wouldn't be awesome to watch.
Hopefully it's just really impressive martial arts and not like it was in the miniseries...Tleszer wrote:Well, what can be good about the movie?
1. The Weirding Way is more likely to be translated as a martial art in this one (especially since The Matrix entered the scene).
Better contacts. Dark blue in dark blue. How hard can it be? I mean they made Paul's eyes all black in the miniseries, which is apparently what the Guildsmen's eyes looked like at the end of Dune...Tleszer wrote:2. I'm sure the Eyes of the Ibad won't be glowing. At the very least contacts like those used in the CoD mini could be used so that subtle expressions can be made by the actors.
And since a lot of it has been done before, they're more likely to try new things.Tleszer wrote:5. They should know what did and didn't work with the other adaptations and know what to avoid (hopefully).
1) Ornithopters with mobile wings, that actually fit the definition of the word "ornithopter."
2) That one Baron floats in the movie may be an interpretation and a creative choice. That both Barons in both movies float represents a misreading. The Baron is said to carry most of his weight on suspensors, the implication being that he walks around, but is too morbidly obese to walk around without decreasing his weight through antigravity.
3) Swords and knives. Hand to hand melee fighting is so much cooler to watch than gun combat, so why won't anyone just follow the books and have large scale melee combat instead of giving everyone guns. Weirding is a martial art, too. No blur effect super fast movement beyond what may actually be physically possible; Matrix fighting sans bullet time.
Further: the Fremen do use guns, and are good at it. Fremen gun kata, anyone?
4) No one sees Guild Navigators. Let's not see them, either.
5) Solid blue eyes that don't glow. How hard is that, really? In the Children of Dune miniseries, when Paul's eyes go entirely black from the stone-burner (how does that translate to being burned out?) that's closer to what extreme spice addiction looks like than glowing blue eyes.
6) The Voice has to not sound like a robot/demon voice. C'mon.
7) Let's not shy away from the Baron's pederasty.
