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The fucker has the nerve to call his twiter account @DuneAuthor. :puke:
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Freakzilla wrote:


The fucker has the nerve to call his twiter account @DuneAuthor. :puke:


Yeah, it's pretty fucking galling. It should be @ShitDuneHack.

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http://www.indiewire.com/2018/03/denis- ... 201937538/

Seems at least two films will be required to tell this story, which is a good-sounding start. No word on casting yet.

I've changed my mind on the Leto casting, and now I hope that Kyle MacLachlan takes up that role.
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Postby Cpt. Aramsham » 10 Mar 2018 01:39

I wouldn't worry about Brian Herbert (whose Twitter handle is in equal parts a direct insult to fans and the sign of a pathetic daddy complex) or Kevin J. Anderson being named producers or giving notes on the script. That's typical courtesy extended to the rights holders, and it doesn't mean anybody pays much attention to their input. Pretending that they have influence on the film is usually just a way to placate them and ensure they don't badmouth the movie to the press when it comes out; the actual product is in the hands of the filmmakers.

I think two or three films is exactly the right way to do Dune (there's no way it would work as a TV series), so this latest is very good news!

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Cpt. Aramsham wrote:I wouldn't worry about Brian Herbert (whose Twitter handle is in equal parts a direct insult to fans and the sign of a pathetic daddy complex) or Kevin J. Anderson being named producers or giving notes on the script. That's typical courtesy extended to the rights holders, and it doesn't mean anybody pays much attention to their input. Pretending that they have influence on the film is usually just a way to placate them and ensure they don't badmouth the movie to the press when it comes out; the actual product is in the hands of the filmmakers.

I think two or three films is exactly the right way to do Dune (there's no way it would work as a TV series), so this latest is very good news!



I like your optimism, but I would sincerely like to read that Villeneuve or Roth (or both) have been quoted telling the Duo to 'do one'.

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Cpt. Aramsham wrote:I wouldn't worry about Brian Herbert (whose Twitter handle is in equal parts a direct insult to fans and the sign of a pathetic daddy complex) or Kevin J. Anderson being named producers or giving notes on the script. That's typical courtesy extended to the rights holders, and it doesn't mean anybody pays much attention to their input. Pretending that they have influence on the film is usually just a way to placate them and ensure they don't badmouth the movie to the press when it comes out; the actual product is in the hands of the filmmakers.

I think two or three films is exactly the right way to do Dune (there's no way it would work as a TV series), so this latest is very good news!


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Postby Omphalos » 12 Mar 2018 16:15

georgiedenbro wrote:http://www.indiewire.com/2018/03/denis-villeneuve-planning-two-dune-films-1201937538/

Seems at least two films will be required to tell this story, which is a good-sounding start. No word on casting yet.

I've changed my mind on the Leto casting, and now I hope that Kyle MacLachlan takes up that role.


I don't think that he has the same gravitas that he had as a younger man. Might create a feeling of nostalgia to see him play his "dad," but I would probably be happier with someone else.

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georgiedenbro wrote:http://www.indiewire.com/2018/03/denis-villeneuve-planning-two-dune-films-1201937538/

Seems at least two films will be required to tell this story, which is a good-sounding start. No word on casting yet.

I've changed my mind on the Leto casting, and now I hope that Kyle MacLachlan takes up that role.


I don't think that he has the same gravitas that he had as a younger man. Might create a feeling of nostalgia to see him play his "dad," but I would probably be happier with someone else.


Agreed. I would avoid casting anyone from the film or the miniseries'. For Leto I would prefer someone like Ralph Fiennes or Sean Bean.

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Postby georgiedenbro » 13 Mar 2018 12:22

I definitely think Leto needs an actor who can be both fierce and sympathetic. Sean Bean is the latter, but I don't think I've ever really seen a killer in him. For similar reasons I really disliked William Hurt's portrayal of Leto. Pruchow was an awesome choice for him in Lynch's film. I'm not sure I've seen MacLachlan do anything recently so maybe Omph is right about that. Jeremy Irons is more the kind of actor I could see, who can be both menacing/angry and also loving. I don't think I'd want him in particular but that kind of actor.
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georgiedenbro wrote:I definitely think Leto needs an actor who can be both fierce and sympathetic. Sean Bean is the latter, but I don't think I've ever really seen a killer in him. For similar reasons I really disliked William Hurt's portrayal of Leto. Pruchow was an awesome choice for him in Lynch's film. I'm not sure I've seen MacLachlan do anything recently so maybe Omph is right about that. Jeremy Irons is more the kind of actor I could see, who can be both menacing/angry and also loving. I don't think I'd want him in particular but that kind of actor.


If you have the chance watch Bean as Richard Sharpe. He's a proper bastard and killer in those.

There is going to be a lot of speculation and comments about who should play what, but if Villeneuve is going to do this, then I hope he isn't afraid to get the best actors he can, regardless of what they've done previously. I have my ideas, but they may not be the best for the story as a whole.

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Postby Naib » 26 May 2018 12:44

Villeneuve's adaptation is to be two films. I just hope he films them both at the same time and not wait for the returns on the first to dictate if the second one is to be done.

https://www.flickeringmyth.com/2018/05/denis-villeneuve-confirms-that-his-dune-adaptation-will-be-two-films/

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Postby Freakzilla » 27 May 2018 12:55

I read that it was going to be filmed separately.
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Postby SadisticCynic » 27 May 2018 13:32

In the corresponding reddit thread someone claims Villeneuve wanted to film all at once but box office fears put an end to that. There's no source given though.

https://www.reddit.com/r/movies/comments/8m1w26/denis_villeneuve_confirms_that_his_dune/dzk5bmn

Prisoners, Arrival and Blade Runner 2049 were all amazing, and BR2049 was my favourite film of 2017, so I have a lot of faith in Our Lord and Saviour Villeneuve.
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Postby WolfgangMercury » 29 May 2018 00:03

I was really worried and galled when saw the post about the Dynamic Duo giving Villeneuve their opinions. I'm not sure how worried I should be. Does anyone know how much input producers traditionally get in Hollywood?
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SadisticCynic wrote:In the corresponding reddit thread someone claims Villeneuve wanted to film all at once but box office fears put an end to that. There's no source given though.

https://www.reddit.com/r/movies/comments/8m1w26/denis_villeneuve_confirms_that_his_dune/dzk5bmn

Prisoners, Arrival and Blade Runner 2049 were all amazing, and BR2049 was my favourite film of 2017, so I have a lot of faith in Our Lord and Saviour Villeneuve.


I like his flicks too. I thought that Blade Runner 2049 was amazing. I think that he really did do a great job of robbing the elements that Scott ignored when he adapted the book originally.

Arrival differed from the story enough to bother me (its one of my favorite stories), but I though the film was good. But he changed the facts just enough to turn it into a more forward-looking piece, instead of the nostalgia and regret-infused masterpiece the short story was.

I am so on the fence with Dune. I don't expect rain-in-the-desert. But IMHO it will not take much to ruin it. It really is the kind of book that deserves the best that there is, with little to no fucking around. Not sure anyone can do it justice.

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Postby georgiedenbro » 29 May 2018 14:46

I'm not quite so hung up on him getting every little detail perfect, and more concerned about the themes of the book coming through. Will the audience be able to see the film and come out realizing that Paul has failed in the end? Will they get the sense that Paul isn't just manipulating them, but they're manipulating him? Will we get any sense of the ecological angle, wherein a people and their environment are connected and the one doesn't just control the other?

Given the current political climate I can at least foresee that the spice=oil angle will be a prime target if Villeneuve wants to make a timely message about international affairs. Whether he goes there (or should) I have no idea.
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Postby SadisticCynic » 29 May 2018 17:44

Omphalos wrote:
SadisticCynic wrote:In the corresponding reddit thread someone claims Villeneuve wanted to film all at once but box office fears put an end to that. There's no source given though.

https://www.reddit.com/r/movies/comments/8m1w26/denis_villeneuve_confirms_that_his_dune/dzk5bmn

Prisoners, Arrival and Blade Runner 2049 were all amazing, and BR2049 was my favourite film of 2017, so I have a lot of faith in Our Lord and Saviour Villeneuve.


I like his flicks too. I thought that Blade Runner 2049 was amazing. I think that he really did do a great job of robbing the elements that Scott ignored when he adapted the book originally.

Arrival differed from the story enough to bother me (its one of my favorite stories), but I though the film was good. But he changed the facts just enough to turn it into a more forward-looking piece, instead of the nostalgia and regret-infused masterpiece the short story was.

I am so on the fence with Dune. I don't expect rain-in-the-desert. But IMHO it will not take much to ruin it. It really is the kind of book that deserves the best that there is, with little to no fucking around. Not sure anyone can do it justice.


I haven't yet read Chiang's short story, so I had nothing to compare with for Arrival. By the time I do get to it I imagine I will have forgotten enough of the film to see it with fresh eyes.

I suspect it will be too easy for Dune purists to be upset with whatever kind of film comes out. Like some attitudes to The Lord of the Rings films or even the recent Star Wars The Last Jedi. I think the key seems to be to absolutely not expect a direct retelling of the story, but an adaptation of it. Then it's a matter of deciding whether or not you can accept the adaptation.
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Postby Omphalos » 30 May 2018 11:53

I was just thinking last night what I need to do is re-read the short story, then re-watch the movie. Didn't do a re-read before I saw Arrival on video.

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Postby Freakzilla » 02 Jun 2018 19:36

I've tried to watch Arrival several times, still don't get it. BR, I watched it a few times and to tell the truth the original wasn't that good except for the art. It could have been anything.

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Postby Naib » 05 Jun 2018 08:50

SadisticCynic wrote:
Omphalos wrote:
SadisticCynic wrote:In the corresponding reddit thread someone claims Villeneuve wanted to film all at once but box office fears put an end to that. There's no source given though.

https://www.reddit.com/r/movies/comments/8m1w26/denis_villeneuve_confirms_that_his_dune/dzk5bmn

Prisoners, Arrival and Blade Runner 2049 were all amazing, and BR2049 was my favourite film of 2017, so I have a lot of faith in Our Lord and Saviour Villeneuve.


I like his flicks too. I thought that Blade Runner 2049 was amazing. I think that he really did do a great job of robbing the elements that Scott ignored when he adapted the book originally.

Arrival differed from the story enough to bother me (its one of my favorite stories), but I though the film was good. But he changed the facts just enough to turn it into a more forward-looking piece, instead of the nostalgia and regret-infused masterpiece the short story was.

I am so on the fence with Dune. I don't expect rain-in-the-desert. But IMHO it will not take much to ruin it. It really is the kind of book that deserves the best that there is, with little to no fucking around. Not sure anyone can do it justice.


I haven't yet read Chiang's short story, so I had nothing to compare with for Arrival. By the time I do get to it I imagine I will have forgotten enough of the film to see it with fresh eyes.

I suspect it will be too easy for Dune purists to be upset with whatever kind of film comes out. Like some attitudes to The Lord of the Rings films or even the recent Star Wars The Last Jedi. I think the key seems to be to absolutely not expect a direct retelling of the story, but an adaptation of it. Then it's a matter of deciding whether or not you can accept the adaptation.


I can accept an adaptation (I think), but what I can't accept is the needless messing with the core plot in order to wedge in ideas from the dribbling duo. It's probably my biggest fear that the studio is listening to them as they scream the word FRANCHISE at the top of their lungs. If they stick to making Dune we could be in with a chance. If they are intent on making a Dune franchise, we're sunk before they start.

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Postby Cpt. Aramsham » 20 Jul 2018 03:45

Surprised that no one has posted about the casting of Timothée Chalamet as Paul in Villeneuve's movie.

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Chalamet is 22 (two years younger than MacLachlan when filming Lynch's Dune), French-American born in New York, and known from roles in Homeland (as the Veep's kid who dates Dana and kills someone in a hit-and-run), Interstellar (as McConaughey's son, Tom), Lady Bird and Call Me By Your Name (for which he got an Oscar nomination).

Seems like a good choice, no?

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Postby Naib » 22 Jul 2018 07:41

Cpt. Aramsham wrote:Surprised that no one has posted about the casting of Timothée Chalamet as Paul in Villeneuve's movie.

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Chalamet is 22 (two years younger than MacLachlan when filming Lynch's Dune), French-American born in New York, and known from roles in Homeland (as the Veep's kid who dates Dana and kills someone in a hit-and-run), Interstellar (as McConaughey's son, Tom), Lady Bird and Call Me By Your Name (for which he got an Oscar nomination).

Seems like a good choice, no?

He looks the part and he can act it seems. I'll reserve any judgements until we see about the rest of the core cast.


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