I'm Not Onasander
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I'm sure that's played a role somewhere ...
are irrational outbursts of rage & delusions of grandeur
symptoms of meth addiction ?
are irrational outbursts of rage & delusions of grandeur
symptoms of meth addiction ?
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...or alcohol.
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Because some people are hideous bastards. I mean the ones that hate Jewish people.JustSomeGuy wrote:Why do people hate the Jews?
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Bedwetting.Freakzilla wrote:What was he thrown out of the military for?
Christian prejudice.JustSomeGuy wrote:Why do people hate the Jews?
(Read something recently that very convincingly tied Hitler's obsession and Nazi persecution of the Jews with Martin Luther's writings. In effect, the Holocaust was the culmination of nearly two millennia of Christian hate. I can cite the essay & book if anyone's interested.)
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Don't think it's just misguided christian hatred because there were people who were against the Jewish people long before Jesus was ever born.SandChigger wrote:Bedwetting.Freakzilla wrote:What was he thrown out of the military for?
Christian prejudice.JustSomeGuy wrote:Why do people hate the Jews?
(Read something recently that very convincingly tied Hitler's obsession and Nazi persecution of the Jews with Martin Luther's writings. In effect, the Holocaust was the culmination of nearly two millennia of Christian hate. I can cite the essay & book if anyone's interested.)
Prejudice is illogical and has no place in today's society. And those who claim to be Christians who are against the Jews need to remember that Jesus is a Jew and the Jewish people are still God's chosen people so when we show hatred we are going against God's word.
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Is there any record of this that isn't from a Jewish source? In their own stories, pre-Christianity they were a pretty brutal people who wiped out their enemies.Eyes High wrote:Don't think it's just misguided christian hatred because there were people who were against the Jewish people long before Jesus was ever born.
Is there even a non-Jewish source that proves they were even slaves in Egypt?
All I know about their history is from the Old Testament, and I don't buy any of that without a secondary source since my conversion.
Edit: my point in asking those questions is that if there is no other evidence for those claims than hatred of the Jews almost certainly stems from Christian tradition. Well, that and how the Israelis treat the Palestinians now and how they assassinate private citizens in other countries.
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I honestly do not know, but let's think of it this way... those who are doing the oppressing rarely write about the incidents where they are the oppressors. All throwout history, man has wanted to present himself in the best light possible.Nekhrun wrote:Is there any record of this that isn't from a Jewish source? In their own stories, pre-Christianity they were a pretty brutal people who wiped out their enemies.Eyes High wrote:Don't think it's just misguided christian hatred because there were people who were against the Jewish people long before Jesus was ever born.
Is there even a non-Jewish source that proves they were even slaves in Egypt?
All I know about their history is from the Old Testament, and I don't buy any of that without a secondary source since my conversion.
Edit: my point in asking those questions is that if there is no other evidence for those claims than hatred of the Jews almost certainly stems from Christian tradition. Well, that and how the Israelis treat the Palestinians now and how they assassinate private citizens in other countries.
There was a LOT of wrong done by the early church but they made it out that they were doing the "work of God" and didn't want to admit they were just acting out on their own personal hatreds. So it would only be from those wronged that we would find out about the wrongs-- in a majority of the cases.
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That was just me drooling. I didn't mean anything by it.
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The current church only exists because of the early church. It's all built upon sickness and prejudice.Eyes High wrote:There was a LOT of wrong done by the early church but they made it out that they were doing the "work of God" and didn't want to admit they were just acting out on their own personal hatreds.
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Which is why I choose love.Nekhrun wrote:The current church only exists because of the early church. It's all built upon sickness and prejudice.Eyes High wrote:There was a LOT of wrong done by the early church but they made it out that they were doing the "work of God" and didn't want to admit they were just acting out on their own personal hatreds.
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It's the victors and the whiners who write history books. Everyone else is too busy just getting on with it. ![Rolling Eyes :roll:](./images/smilies/icon/rolleyes.gif)
Here's some extract from a fun little screed by Luther. The essay I mentioned earlier draws a comparison between Luther's seven suggestions at the end and what happened in Germany in the 30s & 40s.
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Here's some extract from a fun little screed by Luther. The essay I mentioned earlier draws a comparison between Luther's seven suggestions at the end and what happened in Germany in the 30s & 40s.
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jso ... _Jews.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;