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a different kettle of...

Posted: 21 May 2010 07:30
by lotek
looking for something else I found this :)

(pdfs and the search function are awesome, I can't believe how I managed without it before!)

Anyway we've all heard that expression:
Kettle of fish

This term is usually part of 'a fine kettle of fish', 'a pretty kettle of fish' etc, which mean 'a muddle or awkward state of affairs'. The expression 'a different kettle of fish' has, as seems fitting, a different meaning, which is 'an alternative; a different thing altogether'.
Check this out:
Now here was a pretty kettle of sandtrout! The Fremen didn't know what to make of Kynes. They knew who he was, of course. No man arrived on Arrakis without a full dossier finding its way into the Fremen strongholds. They knew him: he was an Imperial servant.
So the sandtrout is some sort of sandfish, and the expression going back to Old Earth found its way to Arrakis and adpated, like everything else had to adapt.


It's just a word but the lesson I learned from Frank's writing("minutiae") is that often the biggest meaning is found in the smallest detail :)

Re: a different kettle of...

Posted: 21 May 2010 09:36
by A Little Galach
Good catch!

Re: a different kettle of...

Posted: 21 May 2010 10:20
by Freakzilla
A Little Galach wrote:Good catch!
:lol:
:?
:(

Re: a different kettle of...

Posted: 21 May 2010 10:55
by merkin muffley
Holy mackerel




But yeah, I agree, Frank Herbert's colloquialisms and little cultural references make it feel like there's 10,000 years of history behind the things he writes.

Re: a different kettle of...

Posted: 21 May 2010 13:43
by DuneFishUK
Where is that quote from? I can't quite plaice it.

Re: a different kettle of...

Posted: 21 May 2010 13:54
by Hunchback Jack
Cod Emperor of Dune, presumably.

HBJ

Re: a different kettle of...

Posted: 21 May 2010 14:01
by Apjak
Dune appendix

Re: a different kettle of...

Posted: 21 May 2010 14:13
by Freakzilla
Apjak wrote:Dune appendix
Appendix I: Ecology of Dune

Re: a different kettle of...

Posted: 21 May 2010 18:47
by DuneFishUK
Freakzilla wrote:
Apjak wrote:Dune appendix
Appendix I: Ecology of Dune
Neither of those posts include fish puns - sort it out.

(You can have some time to mullet over if you like.)




(oh, and cheers :))

Re: a different kettle of...

Posted: 21 May 2010 18:50
by merkin muffley
DuneFishUK wrote:
Freakzilla wrote:
Apjak wrote:Dune appendix
Appendix I: Ecology of Dune
Neither of those posts include fish puns - sort it out.

(You can have some time to mullet over if you like.)




(oh, and cheers :))
Puns make me eel.

Re: a different kettle of...

Posted: 21 May 2010 19:11
by SandChigger
I've really haddock up to here with you lot! :twisted:

Re: a different kettle of...

Posted: 21 May 2010 19:17
by TheDukester
That's a halibut thing to say.

Re: a different kettle of...

Posted: 21 May 2010 19:38
by Hunchback Jack
Koi vey, enough already!

HBJ

Re: a different kettle of...

Posted: 21 May 2010 19:44
by Freakzilla
You people need kelp.

Re: a different kettle of...

Posted: 21 May 2010 20:01
by merkin muffley
Harwood's the one needs kelp. He thinks Machine Crusade was a reel page-tuna.

Re: a different kettle of...

Posted: 21 May 2010 20:08
by lotek

Re: a different kettle of...

Posted: 22 May 2010 03:53
by inhuien
This thread has sunk to the lowest of depths, it's like living with bottom feeders. :twisted:

This thread is Le Fin.