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how many dune books did that man write ?!?

Posted: 28 Jul 2009 11:13
by lotek
going through some posts and having a quick look round, I kept seeing references to that "Paul of Dune"...
To be honest I thought it was another jest as to mock the lack of imagination of KJA and the traitor son :) but NO...

it's for real :tissue2:

just when I thought Sandworms of Dune was the end of it... (i know i'm a bit behind on this one)

but hell at least I had one year of merciful ignorance :?

Re: how many dune books did that man write ?!?

Posted: 28 Jul 2009 11:17
by Freakzilla
Dune: House Atreides (1999)
Dune: House Harkonnen (2000)
Dune: House Corrino (2001)
Dune: The Butlerian Jihad (2002)
Dune: The Machine Crusade (2003)
Dune: The Battle of Corrin (2004)
The Road to Dune (2005)
Hunters of Dune (2006)
Sandworms of Dune (2007)
Paul of Dune (2008)
The Winds of Dune (expected August 2009)

I think his goal is twice as many as FH in 1/4 the time... and on time, no excuses. :wink:

Re: how many dune books did that man write ?!?

Posted: 28 Jul 2009 11:26
by lotek
wow... in a horrified way though

I did read some of them but i didn't find the solace I expected when reaching the climax of the golden path in sandworms, I think some answers are best not given(to me that's the strength of any good writer, being able to let the reader fill the gaps in his mind's eye by just showing the tip of the iceberg_or of the sandworm in that case)

edit: the road to dune was not so bad but hey who really wrote it? ;)

Re: how many dune books did that man write ?!?

Posted: 28 Jul 2009 11:48
by Freakzilla
lotek wrote:wow... in a horrified way though

I did read some of them but i didn't find the solace I expected when reaching the climax of the golden path in sandworms, I think some answers are best not given(to me that's the strength of any good writer, being able to let the reader fill the gaps in his mind's eye by just showing the tip of the iceberg_or of the sandworm in that case)

edit: the road to dune was not so bad but hey who really wrote it? ;)
Don't believe the hype, the climax of the Golden Path was in GEoD (the path is all downhill from there). NONE of there books are worth reading except to fan the flames of hatred.

Re: how many dune books did that man write ?!?

Posted: 28 Jul 2009 12:29
by Hunchback Jack
Yeah, don't read their books. It just encourages them.

HBJ

Re: how many dune books did that man write ?!?

Posted: 28 Jul 2009 12:59
by lotek
i'm ashamed that i did buy one...

but when I heard it was based on material from FH I expected to find some traces of that material, but even I could have written better novels without knowing nothing of the dune universe...
but what to expect from a man who writes star wars novels... (I like SW as a middle aged geezer who grew up with it, no mistakes about that, but as novels they really are for undemanding teenagers)

Re: how many dune books did that man write ?!?

Posted: 28 Jul 2009 13:08
by Freakzilla
lotek wrote:i'm ashamed that i did buy one...

but when I heard it was based on material from FH I expected to find some traces of that material, but even I could have written better novels without knowing nothing of the dune universe...
but what to expect from a man who writes star wars novels... (I like SW as a middle aged geezer who grew up with it, no mistakes about that, but as novels they really are for undemanding teenagers)
Yeah, they got most of us with that lie.

Re: how many dune books did that man write ?!?

Posted: 28 Jul 2009 13:20
by lotek
i believe that's the worst part of it, just plain marketing well targeted and b****r collateral damage to disappointed fans...
and the fact that most fans probably had come to terms with the fact there would be no more dune novels, now to go through that grief again...
it's like Frank Herbert dying twice for me in that respect

Re: how many dune books did that man write ?!?

Posted: 28 Jul 2009 13:31
by Freakzilla
lotek wrote:i believe that's the worst part of it, just plain marketing well targeted and b****r collateral damage to disappointed fans...
and the fact that most fans probably had come to terms with the fact there would be no more dune novels, now to go through that grief again...
it's like Frank Herbert dying twice for me in that respect
But that outline exists, they showed us pictures of the floppy disks!

:lol:

Re: how many dune books did that man write ?!?

Posted: 28 Jul 2009 13:47
by lotek
they learned one lesson well:
* If you believe certain words, you believe their hidden arguments. When you believe something is right or wrong, true or false, you believe the assumptions in the words which express the arguments. Such assumptions are often full of holes, but remain most precious to the convinced.
o The Open-Ended Proof from The Panoplia Prophetica
took me a while to find a relevant quote ;)

Re: how many dune books did that man write ?!?

Posted: 28 Jul 2009 14:55
by Hunchback Jack
lotek wrote:i'm ashamed that i did buy one...

but when I heard it was based on material from FH I expected to find some traces of that material, but even I could have written better novels without knowing nothing of the dune universe...
Yeah, don't feel bad. A lot of us bought the Dune 7 books for that reason. Even after the House and Legends series warned us against it.

The legitimacy that the fabled "outline" gave those two was undeserved, needless to say.

HBJ

Re: how many dune books did that man write ?!?

Posted: 28 Jul 2009 15:50
by SandChigger
Freakzilla wrote:except to fan the flames of hatred.
BURN BABY BURN!!!

Re: how many dune books did that man write ?!?

Posted: 28 Jul 2009 15:52
by Freakzilla
SandChigger wrote:
Freakzilla wrote:except to fan the flames of hatred.
BURN BABY BURN!!!
You know I was thinking of you when I wrote that. :P

Re: how many dune books did that man write ?!?

Posted: 28 Jul 2009 15:52
by GamePlayer
SandChigger wrote:
Freakzilla wrote:except to fan the flames of hatred.
BURN BABY BURN!!!
DISCO INFERNO!

Re: how many dune books did that man write ?!?

Posted: 28 Jul 2009 15:54
by TheDukester
Hunchback Jack wrote:The legitimacy that the fabled "outline" gave those two was undeserved, needless to say.
I've really reached my limit with the "outline" or "the notes" or whatever.

First of all: pix or it doesn't exist.

Secondly: even if something does exist, it doesn't justify pushing out annual McDune books that are the literary equivalent of cotton candy.

Third: pix or it doesn't exist.

Re: how many dune books did that man write ?!?

Posted: 28 Jul 2009 16:04
by Tleilax Master B
And don't forget #4: Pics or it doesn't fucking exist!!!

I've been reading a couple of the synopses over at Chig's blogs... and man, this new one looks like a real stinker......

Howdy all! Just popping in for a quick look. RL has kept me too damn busy.....

Re: how many dune books did that man write ?!?

Posted: 28 Jul 2009 16:07
by Freakzilla
TheDukester wrote:
Hunchback Jack wrote:The legitimacy that the fabled "outline" gave those two was undeserved, needless to say.
I've really reached my limit with the "outline" or "the notes" or whatever.

First of all: pix or it doesn't exist.
There's a picture on the Dunenovels Blog.

Re: how many dune books did that man write ?!?

Posted: 28 Jul 2009 16:08
by Freakzilla
Tleilax Master B wrote:Howdy all! Just popping in for a quick look. RL has kept me too damn busy.....
Fighting off Nazi relic hunters? :)

Re: how many dune books did that man write ?!?

Posted: 28 Jul 2009 16:09
by A Thing of Eternity
Tleilax Master B wrote:And don't forget #4: Pics or it doesn't fucking exist!!!

I've been reading a couple of the synopses over at Chig's blogs... and man, this new one looks like a real stinker......

Howdy all! Just popping in for a quick look. RL has kept me too damn busy.....
Good to see you! My brewing is coming along great, once I have something drinkable I'll mail you some bottles. :D

Re: how many dune books did that man write ?!?

Posted: 28 Jul 2009 16:12
by Tleilax Master B
To Freak: Yes! And that ark will be mine!!! :Adolf:

To AToE: Sweet! Always up for a good mead!

Re: how many dune books did that man write ?!?

Posted: 28 Jul 2009 16:20
by A Thing of Eternity
There will be lots of mead to go around, I have a closet full of the stuff brewing. :D

Re: how many dune books did that man write ?!?

Posted: 28 Jul 2009 17:02
by Ampoliros
I love mead, how bad's the shipping?

while we are waiting:

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I don't know if stained disks matter, but i remember 5' disks being rather easy to injure. Wasn't there a discussion somewhere about Frank's dislike of working on computer although he did own one?

Re: how many dune books did that man write ?!?

Posted: 28 Jul 2009 18:19
by Freakzilla
That's Bobo's Cheeto fingerprint.

Re: how many dune books did that man write ?!?

Posted: 28 Jul 2009 18:20
by Freakzilla
Ampoliros wrote:I don't know if stained disks matter, but i remember 5' disks being rather easy to injure. Wasn't there a discussion somewhere about Frank's dislike of working on computer although he did own one?

Wasn't it Brian (another relative maybe?) who talked him into getting one?

Re: how many dune books did that man write ?!?

Posted: 28 Jul 2009 18:46
by SandChigger
Freakzilla wrote:You know I was thinking of you when I wrote that. :P
:lol:
GamePlayer wrote:DISCO INFERNO!
:dance:
Freakzilla wrote:Wasn't it Brian (another relative maybe?) who talked him into getting one?
I'm pretty sure it was Brian. (Or at least Brian took credit for it in RtD.)

Some irony, huh? :roll: