The Hunt For Gollum
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The Hunt For Gollum
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I think I remember reading about this over at Worm's, but I don't think I've seen the trailers before now. Thanks for the link.
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Before I look at this video, is this a prequel, interquel, or sequel?
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Um.. I suppose it's an interquel. When Gandalf deduced that Bilbo's ring was in fact the One ring he needed to ensure that the Enemy did not find out. Unfortunately, Bilbo told Gollum about Baggins and the Shire. So Gollum had to be located and protected from interrogation by Sauron's agents.
(I haven't had a chance to watch it yet).
(I haven't had a chance to watch it yet).
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interesting will look into when I get home. Gollum was on the loose for 500 years before the events leading up to him meeting bilbo so I wonder where it plugs in.
Interesting indeed, wish the HLP would allow stuff like this, the Duniverse would only be enriched that much more:)
Interesting indeed, wish the HLP would allow stuff like this, the Duniverse would only be enriched that much more:)
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There's also this (http://www.bornofhope.com/) in the pipeline.
They say...
They say...
This hour long original drama is set in the time before the War of the Ring and tells the story of the Dúnedain, the Rangers of the North, before the return of the King. Inspired by only a couple of paragraphs written by Tolkien in the appendices of the Lord of the Rings we follow Arathorn and Gilraen, the parents of Aragorn, from their first meeting through a turbulent time in their people's history.
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It occurs between Bilbo's permanent disappearence from the Shire and the Chapter Shadows of the Past in The Fellowship Of The Ring. There is a good 17 year gap there (Bilbo's 111th birthday is Frodo's 33th; Frodo leaves the Shire when he is 50).trang wrote:interesting will look into when I get home. Gollum was on the loose for 500 years before the events leading up to him meeting bilbo so I wonder where it plugs in.
Interesting indeed, wish the HLP would allow stuff like this, the Duniverse would only be enriched that much more:)
At least, as far as I can recall...
It is set at the very least between The Hobbit and The Fellowship of the Ring.
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I think Im one of the only people that does not really like LotR films and or books.
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I'm coming for you... ![Twisted Evil :twisted:](./images/smilies/icon/twisted.gif)
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Only fantasy books I've read. That was long enough ago that I enjoyed the movies and didn't dwell on the inconsistancies.
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Yah thats the thing for me its like, just not my sort of thing I mean I appreciate the story and the fact it is such a popular fiction form. But its just not my idea of entertainment... I like the first film the best but even then its like a 5 or 6 out of 10 at bestBaraka Bryan wrote:i like the movies, but i couldnt make it through the books... found them painful. I'm not a fantasy guy anywaysSwordMaster wrote:I think Im one of the only people that does not really like LotR films and or books.
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Love both the LotR books and the films, especially the Extended Editions.
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That's okay. I'll still like you two. I guess.SwordMaster wrote:Yah thats the thing for me its like, just not my sort of thing I mean I appreciate the story and the fact it is such a popular fiction form. But its just not my idea of entertainment... I like the first film the best but even then its like a 5 or 6 out of 10 at bestBaraka Bryan wrote:i like the movies, but i couldnt make it through the books... found them painful. I'm not a fantasy guy anywaysSwordMaster wrote:I think Im one of the only people that does not really like LotR films and or books.
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Im just not into the idea of "magic"
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Earthsea had good magic - giving it consequences etc.SwordMaster wrote:Im just not into the idea of "magic"
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In the preface to the Silmarillion (in a letter) Tolkien gives some interesting ideas about magic or 'Machine' and its philosophical importance with regard to concepts of good and evil. Tolkien's work can be surprisingly deep at points.
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Light saber... flaming sword... what's the difference? Do you understand how either works?SwordMaster wrote:Im just not into the idea of "magic"
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I am not sure about the flamming sword, although Im thinking of.... the final fight at the end of Kurt Wimmer's UltravioletFreakzilla wrote:Light saber... flaming sword... what's the difference? Do you understand how either works?SwordMaster wrote:Im just not into the idea of "magic"
A lightsaber does have a science fiction behind it, although never explained in detail, the science behind plasma based energy and so on is not beyond the span of science fiction. The force could be magic, could be a sort of psionic evolution or anti evolution as it might be....
I sapose a similer argument could be made for all magic, although its clearly not part of the LotR lore. Magic works because its magic and wizards do it!
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Sure, but how long ago in our world would our modern technology have been considered magic?
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Now there's a definite misuse of that quote. ![Wink ;)](./images/smilies/icon/wink.gif)
Anyway, LoTR and Earthsea are about the only fantasy I've ever been able to stomach.
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No doubt about it. But when the wizard can fly and shoot fire from his hands and yell out agrabadabba! poof he turns you into a rabbit!Freakzilla wrote:Sure, but how long ago in our world would our modern technology have been considered magic?
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That reminds me, I watched Krull a few nights ago... ![Rolling Eyes :roll:](./images/smilies/icon/rolleyes.gif)
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Krull? Isn't that a tiny crustacean eaten by whales?Freakzilla wrote:That reminds me, I watched Krull a few nights ago...
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(Krill?
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KRULL!!!![Laughing :lol:](./images/smilies/icon/lol.gif)
SwordMaster nailed it with the last bit there: turning a person into an animal is MAGIC. No way that can ever be science fiction.
(FH was turning a man into a giant worm, but he did it slowly and it was never described as anything but a physical, biological process of symbiosis/hybridization. Contrast that with the ugly dwarf princess Norma in the McDune fantasies who somehow rebuilds a body from the cloud of vaporized plasma that used to be her old body. There's no hint of an explanation of how that would even be possible ... no mention of plausible physical process. It's MAGIC!
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KRULL!!!
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SwordMaster nailed it with the last bit there: turning a person into an animal is MAGIC. No way that can ever be science fiction.
(FH was turning a man into a giant worm, but he did it slowly and it was never described as anything but a physical, biological process of symbiosis/hybridization. Contrast that with the ugly dwarf princess Norma in the McDune fantasies who somehow rebuilds a body from the cloud of vaporized plasma that used to be her old body. There's no hint of an explanation of how that would even be possible ... no mention of plausible physical process. It's MAGIC!
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