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Robspierre wrote:KJA ended up being nominated because he was the choice of the Sad Puppies twats who are trying to fuck with the Hugo's because they think fandom is too liberal.

One wonders how low birth rates have to fall in civilized countries before the elites begin to realize that the Taliban may not, in fact, be the stupid ones with regards to this particular matter (...) But there is no empirical evidence indicating that female education is societally beneficial, and there is an increasing amount of evidence that correlates it with a broad range of societal ills.

Naïve mind wrote:

Robspierre wrote:KJA ended up being nominated because he was the choice of the Sad Puppies twats who are trying to fuck with the Hugo's because they think fandom is too liberal.

I imagine everyone is too liberal for those guys. Here's a sample of the guy who came up with the list that dominated the Hugos.

The cost of educating women

One wonders how low birth rates have to fall in civilized countries before the elites begin to realize that the Taliban may not, in fact, be the stupid ones with regards to this particular matter (...) But there is no empirical evidence indicating that female education is societally beneficial, and there is an increasing amount of evidence that correlates it with a broad range of societal ills.

Yep, to him, a woman's place is in the home, not getting educated. Considering their attitude to things that, to most people, were adequately settled one hundred years ago, you can imagine their attitude towards things that are still under debate. His whole blog is like a parade of trans-batshit opinions. Nuts.

In 2013 Beale ran unsuccessfully to succeed John Scalzi as president of the Science Fiction and Fantasy Writers of America (SFWA). Later in 2013, he was investigated by the Board, who subsequently voted to expel him from the organization.[19] Beale maintains that the vote does not signify his expulsion from the organization.[20]

Beale is opposed to feminism,[32] writing that "I very much like women and wish them well, which is precisely why I consider women’s rights to be a disease that should be eradicated. For what is rather more difficult to dismiss are the simple and easily verifiable facts that indicate women have seldom been less able to pursue their dreams and less able to achieve their desires than today, the Golden Age of Feminism."[33]

He has compared immigration into the US by Mexicans and others with a military invasion,[34] specifically to Operation Barbarossa: "The Mexican invasion of the United States is ten times larger in scope than Operation Barbarossa, and especially in a quasi-democracy where voting rights are quickly and readily granted, a free trade-led invasion and occupation will lead to the political subjugation of the invaded that will last longer and can be more oppressive than an actual military occupation. Most of the 3.9 million Axis soldiers who invaded the Soviet Union in 1941 never fired a shot and the only substantive difference between a military invasion and a labor invasion is the failure to react by the government of the invaded nation."[35]

Feud with John Scalzi[edit]
Since 2005, Beale has been engaged in an online feud with science fiction writer John Scalzi. In February 2013, Scalzi attracted media attention with a pledge to pay $5 to various charities and nonprofit advocacy organizations every time Beale mentioned him; after others echoed this pledge, over $50,000 was pledged in under a week.[31]

Conflict with the SFWA[edit]
In June 2013, Beale used the SFWAuthors Twitter feed to post a link to his blog, in which he referred to African-American author N. K. Jemisin as "an educated, but ignorant half-savage, with little more understanding of what it took to build a new literature" [36] and Teresa Nielsen Hayden as a "fat frog."[37] In August, after complaints from members and an investigation initiated by the board of the SFWA, Beale posted an excerpt of a letter from the SFWA president on his blog.[37] Jemisin later commented that "if you represent the civilization to which I’m supposed to aspire then I am all savage, and damned proud of it."[38]

Lawliet wrote:That Vox Day guy is an asshole.

Sardaukar Capt wrote:Vox Day is a moron and parasite but I don't think he's an organizer from what I read so I wouldn't condemn the whole group/movement just because that leach latched on because he sees them as "against Scalzi" and he hates Scalzi's guts.

Sardaukar Capt wrote:I think you are giving the Hugos too much credit. It's a fan voted award. It's the "Peoples Choice Award" of the sci-fi world. If you are looking for quality vs popularity or Oscar type comparison, you should look at the Nebula which is voted on by the Sci-Fi & Fantasy Writers of America. It's a peer voted on reward. Not something voted on by paying members of the World Sci-Fi Convention of who anyone can join. While it might have been prestigious at one time, I think the Hugos have been ruined by all the slate campaigning by all sides over the past decade to serve their own political and social agendas over the quality of the work.

Ampoliros wrote:

Sardaukar Capt wrote:I think you are giving the Hugos too much credit. It's a fan voted award. It's the "Peoples Choice Award" of the sci-fi world. If you are looking for quality vs popularity or Oscar type comparison, you should look at the Nebula which is voted on by the Sci-Fi & Fantasy Writers of America. It's a peer voted on reward. Not something voted on by paying members of the World Sci-Fi Convention of who anyone can join. While it might have been prestigious at one time, I think the Hugos have been ruined by all the slate campaigning by all sides over the past decade to serve their own political and social agendas over the quality of the work.

Good point, its possible I was confusing the two. And I have to agree with Omph, any prestige the award has is now squandered.

Hunchback Jack wrote:I agree that for a long time the Hugo's got it right - and by that, I mean they not only recognized the best SF of the year - in noms, if not the winners

"I'm not sure if I've grown as a reader (since reading the original Saga, which I LOVED) and gotten used to ridiculously complex novels like Weber's Safehold series, or if Mr. Anderson has started writing for a younger audience, or what, but this book seemed way too simple and straightforward to me. It felt like pop music - generic, simple, and difficult to enjoy but even so, kinda catchy.

I could recommend it for readers who prefer to keep things simple or teenagers. I can also see it being a good audiobook."

Ampoliros wrote:It would always be an outlier, even people unaware of his writing make the same points over and over, even for his "Hugo nominated" book:

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"I'm not sure if I've grown as a reader (since reading the original Saga, which I LOVED) and gotten used to ridiculously complex novels like Weber's Safehold series, or if Mr. Anderson has started writing for a younger audience, or what, but this book seemed way too simple and straightforward to me. It felt like pop music - generic, simple, and difficult to enjoy but even so, kinda catchy.

I could recommend it for readers who prefer to keep things simple or teenagers. I can also see it being a good audiobook."

And that's from a 3-star review.

Even when one of his books stumbles across something that might actually make interesting speculative fiction, it deals with it as if it was an episode of Teletubbies, bright lights and fast moving objects overshadow it all. When he isn't just going full on gore pornish to pretend its 'edgy' or mature.

500 years from now when curators are digging through past awards and classic sci-fi, KJA will still be a joke. You can disagree with another books premise or style or even its marginal quality, but the Hack's books are on their own level of terrible from virtually every angle.

That curator a half millenia in the future would certainly end up checking out how such an outlier was chosen.

Hunchback Jack wrote:Would he have been nominated anyway? Impossible to tell,