DUNE DISCUSSION FORUM FOR ORTHODOX HERBERTARIANS
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Hehehehecmsahe wrote:O my, this is hilarious!, there you have it! evidence on the evilness of scientology (oh boy I wrote it to a MB, I can expect to get sued any day now...)
I also dated a Mormon girl, didn't get engaged though.
there are some beliefs in that religion that really out-crazy Christianity - though I'm sure not all (or even most for all I know) of the modern followers believe those parts.Oh, there's some nutty beliefs, to be sure. Can I add, for the record, that I personally don't believe a group of goofy angels came down out of the sky and told Joseph Smith where to find some crazy-ass buried tablets made of gold?A Thing of Eternity wrote:Can I say that Mormonism is Christianity X 150 million units of weird?
The reason I "lifted" word for word from Wikipedia is because I had class to go to, so I didn't want to bother sitting around typing up my own words on something that doesn't require anything more than a direct quote. Not only that, but I provided the link to the Wikipedia page to acknowledge that that's where I took those lines from.TheDukester wrote:Really? That's the one you "always remember"? So you lifted your description of the events, word for word, from the Wikipedia page? If it means so much to you, you'd think you could come up with your own words to describe it ...Redstar wrote:But the atrocity I always remember is the Mountain Meadows Massacre, when an emigrant wagon train was attacked and 120 men, women, and children were killed.
Worse yet, you'll paint an entire religion — and quite a large one, too — based on an event from 150 years ago? Three words for that: complete fucking bullshit.
Do you actually have any experience in Mormon communities? I have quite a bit myself, being in the middle of quite the LDS region (I live not that far north of Genoa, Nev., the site of the oldest Mormon settlement west of Illinois) and having once been engaged to a Mormon girl. Here's what I've found, generally speaking, to be true about Mormons: they are big believers in the importance of family; they are law-and-order people; and they are big on education and faith. In my world, none of these are bad things. About the worst I can say about the LDSers is that I have to shoo a couple of them off my porch once every six or eight weeks when they drop by to talk about the Book of Mormon. Big deal.
Now, am I saying that all LDSers are like this Molly and Norman Mormon picture I'm painting? Of course not. Unlike you, I will not paint with that broad of a brush. As I said above, these have been my general impressions after having spent most of a lifetime in a strong Mormon area and around Mormon families. I'm sure there are Mormons in my area who are, right now, doing less-than-wonderful things, but I'm also sure I can say the same thing about people in any other religious group you can name.
Seriously, you and SwordMaster need to get a fucking grip before you start in with more of your nonsense. You're both coming across like a couple of 12-year-olds with grudges. If you want to discuss religion, or even debate it, that's fine, but do some research and gather some facts (example: the LDS church has officially not sanctioned polygamy since 1890. So the very, very tiny percentage of Mormons who still practice it are part of splinter groups who are operating illegally and without church sanction. These are the types of groups who are profiled in the Krakauer book mentioned above. Great book, I've read it twice, but it represents the beliefs of about one-hundredth of one percent of all Mormons today. Do you guys even get this? Do you understand that no one is more ashamed of these radical idiots than the Mormons themselves?).
So, then: time to do your homework. Maybe come up with something better than a 150-year-old incident the next time you decide to rant about a subject you clearly know very little about. Fair warning: the next time you insult a number of people who I consider good friends (close to family, in some cases) with some weak-ass, childish bullshit, I will go off. I will light you up like the Fourth of July.
Then you're nothing more than a moron with a grudge.Redstar wrote:And yes, I'm going to paint the entire religion in that light.
I also said that I don't judge the people that follow Mormonism, just the religion itself, in the same way that you shouldn't hate the sinner but the sin. Mormonism was a religion based on the teachings of a guy that couldn't decide which version of his story he'd stick to and his Book of Mormon contains many retroactive mistakes and false conclusions based off the original Bible that make the KJA shit seem like poetry.TheDukester wrote:Then you're nothing more than a moron with a grudge.Redstar wrote:And yes, I'm going to paint the entire religion in that light.
Obviously all religions are made up, but I mean "looks truthful" in that it seems like they were "made up" based on faith or mutual benefit rather than personal gain.Mandy wrote:What religion actually "looks truthful"? They were all made up by someone.
I'm Orthodox Herbetarian!Mandy wrote:What religion actually "looks truthful"? They were all made up by someone.
Yikes!GamePlayer wrote:Hehehehecmsahe wrote:O my, this is hilarious!, there you have it! evidence on the evilness of scientology (oh boy I wrote it to a MB, I can expect to get sued any day now...)
The litigious CoS now has your name in a database of offenders. When the day of their dictatorship arises, you'll be held to account
The reviewer A reviewer cites this paragraph from the Lara Croft (Jakob von Gunten posted the link) novel my Mike Resnick:
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Here’s my fav paragraph from the book. Page 191.
“She finished her story at about the same time she finished her meal. Oliver signed the check, got up, and walked her to the safari car. A few moments later they were driving through the center of the huge city, past the Kenyatta International Conference Centre, the New Stanley Hotel, the High Court, all the familiar landmarks.”
Geepers, if that’s not Pulitzer winning writing I dunno what is. I love “the safari car”.
SandRider wrote:Who ? Mike Resnick ?
Mike Resnick
Mike Resnick
Mike Resnick
that guy ?
Mike Resnick ?
some kinda fantasy writer, isn't he ?
that Mike Resnick guy ....
Punishment for him or us or KJA?SandChigger wrote:His past and future associations with The Hack are no doubt far more punishment than anything I could ever do.
ouchGamePlayer wrote:Hehehehecmsahe wrote:O my, this is hilarious!, there you have it! evidence on the evilness of scientology (oh boy I wrote it to a MB, I can expect to get sued any day now...)
The litigious CoS now has your name in a database of offenders. When the day of their dictatorship arises, you'll be held to account