DUNE DISCUSSION FORUM FOR ORTHODOX HERBERTARIANS
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Let's see... Shaddam had the Guild, Sisterhood, CHOAM and the Landsraad checking him. Who balanced Paul's power?Ampoliros wrote:I want him to SHUT THE FUCK UP about that damned "corrupt empire". Shaddam's empire wasn't any more or less corrupt than any other (including Paul's) at least as the Canon books show us.
SadisticCynic wrote:Um.. anyone notice one calls it the sequel to Dune and the other the sequel to Dune Messiah?
(If I missed this earlier, my apologies).
I missed that.Sweet Mother! Jessica gots back.SandChigger wrote:
Me:Unlike you, I won't jump to conclusions, I will seek the facts instead. I know what cover my ARC came with, I know there has been no "official announcement" and I know that the cover has no real bearing on the content of the book.
Who's jumping to conclusions? We're simply examining the possibilities, looking for an explanation to an unexpected anomaly. (Do you keep your brain turned off all the time now, not just when you're reading KJA?)
Your precious ARC you keep flaunting was sent out over a month ago, no? (Interesting datum, since most ARCs I've seen have had blank covers.) Things can change, no? And there was no advance warning of the title change until its "official announcement", either.
But you're quite right about one thing.
A turd in a pretty wrapper is still crap.
Yikes, I missed that one. I was recently listing all the differences for my good friend Brian Conway, but I just zipped right past that one.SadisticCynic wrote:Um.. anyone notice one calls it the sequel to Dune and the other the sequel to Dune Messiah?
Must have been designed by Unca Mike.SadisticCynic wrote:Um.. anyone notice one calls it the sequel to Dune and the other the sequel to Dune Messiah?
(If I missed this earlier, my apologies).
After a decade of practice it's probably second nature now.Baraka Bryan wrote:TheDukester wrote:Yikes, I missed that one. I was recently listing all the differences for my good friend Brian Conway, but I just zipped right past that one.SadisticCynic wrote:Um.. anyone notice one calls it the sequel to Dune and the other the sequel to Dune Messiah?
hahhaa amazing! they manage to fuck another thing up
Now that is a nice fat ass!Omphalos wrote:Sweet Mother! Jessica gots back.SandChigger wrote:
God I love to be right when he's wrong.Looks like the Publisher did decide to make the change. I'm surprised to see them change so close to publication, but apparently there was a lot of positive feedback on the UK cover. I'm sure the book will be well received by MOST people.
Well, MOST people that read it will be to dumb to know the difference, others are just maniacal in their hatred.SandChigger wrote:B. Conway has showed up in the thread to eat crow:
God I love to be right when he's wrong.Looks like the Publisher did decide to make the change. I'm surprised to see them change so close to publication, but apparently there was a lot of positive feedback on the UK cover. I'm sure the book will be well received by MOST people.
Right now, it's good to be me.
OK, this moron obviously can't read. Or write all that well, either.A New Dune Book
by Gnomicron [=KJASF Spayshul Pooter Robert Junker on Amazon]
Reader Rating: (4 stars)
June 13, 2009: The Winds of Dune was great book that adds to the tapestry of the Dune Universe.
When Frank Herbert wrote the original (and still classic) series, he left a good many years uncharted during the course of the series. This new set of books (starting with Paul of Dune) does a good job of filling in some unanswered questions. I enjoyed the flashback scenes in this book quite a bit.
Frank Herbert, undeniably a master storyteller, could sometimes be a little dry in his writing. Herbert and Anderson do a good job at making the narrative a little more approachable. The writing was crisp and it flowed well.
Starting from Jessica learning of her son's death and dealing with Alia's learning how to run an Empire, this book moves swiftly from start to finish. There were quite a few parts where I couldn't put this book down.
The least interesting character in this book was Irulan. But then, she never was one of my favorite characters. She's never really felt well-rounded to me. She still doesn't in this book.
All in all, I enjoyed this book (and the previous book in the trilogy) and would highly recommend it to other sci-fi fans.
So This Asshole wrote:Frank Herbert, undeniably a master storyteller, could sometimes be a little dry in his writing. Herbert and Anderson do a good job at making the narrative a little more approachable. The writing was crisp and it flowed well.
Also it looks like he's judging this book by its cover now which he just told everyone not to do.SandChigger wrote:B. Conway has showed up in the thread to eat crow:
God I love to be right when he's wrong.Looks like the Publisher did decide to make the change. I'm surprised to see them change so close to publication, but apparently there was a lot of positive feedback on the UK cover. I'm sure the book will be well received by MOST people.
Right now, it's good to be me.
believe that if you chose to write in another persons universe, you owe that person, that universe and its fans some respect (no, not legally, morally). Rewriting the Butlerian Jihad as a Skynet scenario is disrespectful (or they do not understand the originals). Inventing a(nother?!?!?) first time off-planet for Paul only so they can put some action into the books is disrespectful. Claiming Leto II and everything he dod and stood for was 100% wrong is disrespectful. Inventing a super-ultra-cool new godess-like character who fixes everything in the end, keeping in mind the original novel was, in Frank's words, a warning about the lure of the hero-myth is... bloody hilarious if it were a joke.
Now it is just sad...
If you like the action-romp and the universe, fine. We dislike the disrespect, inattention to detail and general ignoring (or ignorance about?) the originals.
Are the books good action-sci/fi books for teens. Maybe. I could not care less.
Are they good Dune books. No. They are horrible misunderstandings with zero regard for the original characters, themes and even basic plot points.
By writing Dune on the front cover, they are inviting people to judge them on the later merits.
