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Mandy wrote:

Spicelon wrote:
BTW, I had two toofs removed today, so I am currently riding a Loritab high. It's pretty fucking awesome! It's the Phoop! Orald, you should try it.

I'm glad you got your teeth fixed. Lortabs are great, try taking 5 or 6 of them at once.

Or just two and a couple shots of whisky.

Oh, sure, y'all get drunk and high, I don't care, kill yourselves! I'll have this board all to myself then!

And what a fun time that will be then!

Well, at least I'll be certain to always have intellegent company.

orald wrote:Well, at least I'll be certain to always have intellegent company.

Are you certain of that

Yes.

And I won't have to deal with 'em biddy-lil-eyed Canadians with their flapping heads so full of lies.

orald wrote:Yes.

And I won't have to deal with 'em biddy-lil-eyed Canadians with their flapping heads so full of lies.

I heard that.

Oh yea? What are you gonna do aboot it?

orald wrote:Oh yea? What are you gonna do aboot it?

Hey! That's the French Canadians you're insulting there.

orald wrote:Oh, sure, y'all get drunk and high, I don't care, kill yourselves! I'll have this board all to myself then!

ppfffftttt.....like getting drunk and high kills you....its lack of moderation that kills you...i call it dumbass or stupid ..... if you die cause of any drugs or alcohol ever..you werent killed by the drug...but by dumbass

He had it all but was struck down in his prime...by dumbass!

I always thought The Butlerian Jihad was a philosophical revolution. A section of people became aware that the human race had become soft, utterly reliant on AIs for everything: AIs controlled by powerful corrupt people in a business-based corporate culture similar to our own. These dissidents stepped away from society, learning how to become human computers.

The word spread among the population, gaining adherents as they too took on the mental training that freed them, eventually creating a revolution where people turned their backs on the thinking machines, probably leading to violence where buildings housing the machines were stormed and destroyed. The men who controlled the machines fought back, fearing they would lose their power and business interests.

The collapse of old-style corporate culture led to the creation of the quasi-feudal society of Dune.

Not once did I imagine that it involved internet-gaming geeks in exo-skeletons, demented baby-killing robot torturers and a supercomputer (all the clichés Frank avoided!)

I always pictured it as man and machine beating the crap out of each other. Didn't the un-edited Lynch film show something along those lines in black and white sketches at the beginning.

Dom wrote:I always thought The Butlerian Jihad was a philosophical revolution. A section of people became aware that the human race had become soft, utterly reliant on AIs for everything: AIs controlled by powerful corrupt people in a business-based corporate culture similar to our own. These dissidents stepped away from society, learning how to become human computers.

The word spread among the population, gaining adherents as they too took on the mental training that freed them, eventually creating a revolution where people turned their backs on the thinking machines, probably leading to violence where buildings housing the machines were stormed and destroyed. The men who controlled the machines fought back, fearing they would lose their power and business interests.

The collapse of old-style corporate culture led to the creation of the quasi-feudal society of Dune.

Not once did I imagine that it involved internet-gaming geeks in exo-skeletons, demented baby-killing robot torturers and a supercomputer (all the clichés Frank avoided!)

I agree.

Maybe had some battles between man and robots, but was robots programmed and controlled by mans, during the heat of revolution.

Never heard of that...but didn't the Lynch version also show rain on Arrakis and sound-modules(sp?)?

Oh, and fake ginger-headed Harkonnens for all!

The Dune movie by Lynch is a "decent" movie in its own merit but is a far cry from being anything close to Dune canon.

dm1215 wrote:I always pictured it as man and machine beating the crap out of each other. Didn't the un-edited Lynch film show something along those lines in black and white sketches at the beginning.

It also had sound lasers, Paul with the godlike ability to create rain, and phsychic bene gesserit.

Sometimes I've thought of that era being somewhat similar to what is depicted in Ghost and the Shell, but I also agree that, from my understanding of the books, humanity grew weak and too reliant on machines and AI and needed to strengthen themselves without the aid of machines.

Tleszer wrote:Sometimes I've thought of that era being somewhat similar to what is depicted in Ghost and the Shell, but I also agree that, from my understanding of the books, humanity grew weak and too reliant on machines and AI and needed to strengthen themselves without the aid of machines.

I'm not backing any particular stance at the moment. I am still learning here, so I'm looking, listening and checking out what's being said and comparing it against what I've read. I understand both sides so far. Perhaps I'll eventually lean one way or the other as I learn. We will have to wait and see.

dm1215 wrote:I always pictured it as man and machine beating the crap out of each other. Didn't the un-edited Lynch film show something along those lines in black and white sketches at the beginning.

That version was in no way endorsed by Lynch his name is removed from the credits and "Alan Smithee" got the blame in his stead.

A Thing of Eternity wrote:Paul with the godlike ability to create rain,

Yeah, wtf was that about?

Up until that point, I'd mostly liked the movie. Granted, there were some deviations from the books, and it was all a bit overwrought, but I liked the visual style a lot, and gave Lynch a break given how difficult it would be to make a Dune movie.

But when Paul looked up into the sky and made it rain, I immediately thought "Er, Mr. Lynch ... you do realize that Paul wasn't really a god, right?" I mean, that's a pretty important aspect of Dune right there.

HBJ

Tleszer wrote:Sometimes I've thought of that era being somewhat similar to what is depicted in Ghost and the Shell

But even that is too primitive IMO.

We're talking 11,000 years from now and a human(/machine?) space extending across at least 13,000+ planets.

SandChigger wrote:

Tleszer wrote:Sometimes I've thought of that era being somewhat similar to what is depicted in Ghost and the Shell

But even that is too primitive IMO.

We're talking 11,000 years from now and a human(/machine?) space extending across at least 13,000+ planets.

True it would be too primitive, but it would still be more believable than what KJA & BH provided in Legends.

Oh...D'UH!

No arguments there!

Shit.. people whacking each other over the head with calculators is more believable than what P&tB created.