posts that I think will get deleted at DN

SandRider · Post by **SandRider** » 09 Nov 2008 12:19

no-one that I haven't already attacked or ridiculed, I don't think. There are some I find quite useless, or only slightly annoying. did you see the pics of my new wives over on the "Thanks to Jacurutu" thread ? I was having an interesting conversation with ARCH, then Mandy started cock-blocking or something, I'm not sure what that was all about. Perhaps she was jealous - I was this close to getting pictures of ARCH's shaved pussy. (cat, for those not privy. calm down)

chanilover · Post by **chanilover** » 09 Nov 2008 12:22

I'll have a look over there, I like internet dramatics, especially where there's underlying sexual tension. ARCH is from the Balkans, you know. I'm thinking of going on holiday there next year, it's supposed to be really nice in parts after they rebuilt the bomb damaged buildings.

SandRider · Post by **SandRider** » 09 Nov 2008 12:29

Take lots of pictures if you go, and see if you can get me a couple of those teen-aged Serbian girls yearning to breathe the Free Air of America, or maybe just a couple whose parents have crushing debt and a cultural heritage of selling their children. That's all the Eastern Europeans, right ?

chanilover · Post by **chanilover** » 09 Nov 2008 12:42

I used to house-share with a Russian girl from the Ukraine who is the biggest nympho I've met. We used to throw stuff at her bedroom door, telling her to shut up because of all the shrieking and grunting coming from her room.

SandRider · Post by **SandRider** » 09 Nov 2008 12:44

still got her email ?

Mandy · Post by **Mandy** » 09 Nov 2008 16:14

I was just trying to keep you all to myself.

SandRider · Post by **SandRider** » 09 Nov 2008 17:36

you'll always have my heart & mind .... isn't that enough ?

Mandy · Post by **Mandy** » 09 Nov 2008 19:46

I'm greedy.

SandRider · Post by **SandRider** » 09 Nov 2008 19:53

stop chatting with me, woman !
just send the new topless pics to my email below.
the ones you PM'd me last week were small & blurry ....

Finally ! Merritt woke up and deleted the last registered user,
Cowards Ban Dissenters.

{edit} Oh, hell :

Nekhrun · Post by **Nekhrun** » 10 Nov 2008 09:02

SandRider wrote:stop chatting with me, woman !
just send the new topless pics to my email below.
the ones you PM'd me last week were small & blurry ....

Finally ! Merritt woke up and deleted the last registered user,
Cowards Ban Dissenters.

{edit} Oh, hell :

Ask him about it...he's here now!

SandRider · Post by **SandRider** » 10 Nov 2008 09:43

Dangit, I was over at ancestry.com, digging up the past & missed him.
He was just here picking up his hate-mail & snitch-notes, eh ?
I realized this morning that he wasn't necessarily deleting the protest users
as much as a minion (ARNIE) was registering names to kick the protests off the front page:

After the heads-up that Merritt was awake & prowling, I checked again:

You'd think all this would discourage him, but he may just consider it the price of doing business now.

TheDukester · Post by **TheDukester** » 10 Nov 2008 12:41

My knowledge of phpBB software is pretty basic, but I'm sort of mystified why Byron doesn't take a few minutes to add a few more gates to the front door of That Place. At the very least, shouldn't he get rid of the automatic approval that's going on over there? It seems like he's relying on IP addresses, but it's clear that those are being spoofed.

Not that I don't enjoy the humor, of course. "Dance Monkey Dance!" ... that's an all-time classic. And I'm no Byron fan by any means, but my impression of him was that he's a bit ... well, smarter ... than this. Maybe not, though.

GamePlayer · Post by **GamePlayer** » 10 Nov 2008 14:42

TheDukester wrote:"Dance Monkey Dance!" ... that's an all-time classic.

Agreed. I love that one

Mandy · Post by **Mandy** » 10 Nov 2008 14:42

I doubt they let Byron use the admin cp to do anything but ban IPs.

SandChigger · Post by **SandChigger** » 10 Nov 2008 19:53

TheDukester wrote:my impression of him was that he's a bit ... well, smarter ... than this. Maybe not, though.

Not when it comes to this web stuff.

(Are they still using my SPAM_KILL_IT! code? I should demand that they remove and discard it. I gave it to them out of goodwill. I bear them no such now.

)

SandRider · Post by **SandRider** » 10 Nov 2008 21:21

Mandy wrote:I doubt they let Byron use the admin cp to do anything but ban IPs.

Well, if so, he's doing a lousy job with that, too.

SandRider · Post by **SandRider** » 11 Nov 2008 09:36

Over There > Paul of Dune > Errors in PoD // this morning:

Simon wrote:
arnoldo wrote:
RazzBerry wrote:
arnoldo wrote:
I'm reading a scholarly book about Frank Herbert which may shed some light on this issue. . .

. . . In a monological design the hero is closed, and the limits of the meaning are sharply outlined. Yet Herbert has renounced all of these monological premises. . . Herbert's authorial position, then, is one that refuses to finalize "this complex mixture," as he calls it, or to assume a stance of authority understood in the monological senses that would deny the reader his freedoms in recreating the world of Dune.
~William Touponce

So it's up to the reader whether or not she/he wishes to accept any so called "changes."

Is it your position that these are not changes? That the text of Frank's work is now viewed as less than cannon, so as to fit the new books?
Remember the FH’s writings were character driven rather than plot driven - - thus alleged plot changes that occurred before the events portrayed in Dune, i.e., Paul going off planet, are inconsequential to the events depicted in Dune. That being said FH wasn’t above making minor changes to his characters- - such as Scytale being portrayed in Dune Messiah as a face dancer and in CH:D he is a master!
I've always wondered why such a massive BT inconsistency always gets a "pass" from the bean counters. Or even the the idea that the BT leave an "escape" for the targets of their plots, a concept which was seemingly dropped without explaination by the later FH books (Waff seemed to have no interest in leaving his prey a way out, despite the supposedly habitual BT compulsion to do so described in the earliest chapters of DM ). Oh, and the metal eyes of the gholas...

Not that I have any issue with these changes (I have no problem sitting back and enjoying the ride, allowing the authors to take me where they will), I just wonder why FH seems impervious to critical comment while BH and KJA get the fifth degree for items far more trivial than the constant (unexplained) changes FH imposed on the BT during his run.

"bean counters" ? Frank's "run" ? really ?

SandChigger · Post by **SandChigger** » 11 Nov 2008 10:30

He's seen or heard "bean counters" used somewhere and not understood what it meant, obviously.

And he also hasn't paid attention to anything in the "FH inconsistencies" thread OVER THERE if he thinks no one is aware of or has commented on the changes or errors in FH's writings. Jesus Effing Christ.

And he really doesn't get the point THAT IT WAS FH'S UNIVERSE AND CHARACTERS TO DO WITH AS HE CHOSE. If the damned Hack wants to be creative and take people for a ride, let him make his own universe. (Oh, yeah, he tried that, didn't he, full of "borrowed" goods lightly reworked.)

Sheesh...how many people can fit up in there?!

SandRider · Post by **SandRider** » 11 Nov 2008 10:33

hmmm. I smell a memo .....

SandChigger · Post by **SandChigger** » 11 Nov 2008 10:56

Ah, yes, that fragrance is a bit hard to miss....

GamePlayer · Post by **GamePlayer** » 11 Nov 2008 12:49

Did someone say "fragrance"?

Drunken Idaho · Post by **Drunken Idaho** » 11 Nov 2008 13:19

DrunkenDuncan wrote:
Nekhrun wrote:
Simon wrote: I've always wondered why such a massive BT inconsistency always gets a "pass" from the bean counters. Or even the the idea that the BT leave an "escape" for the targets of their plots, a concept which was seemingly dropped without explaination by the later FH books (Waff seemed to have no interest in leaving his prey a way out, despite the supposedly habitual BT compulsion to do so described in the earliest chapters of DM ). Oh, and the metal eyes of the gholas...

Not that I have any issue with these changes (I have no problem sitting back and enjoying the ride, allowing the authors to take me where they will), I just wonder why FH seems impervious to critical comment while BH and KJA get the fifth degree for items far more trivial than the constant (unexplained) changes FH imposed on the BT during his run.
This was talked about previously, about 3 years ago. Maybe it just gets overshadowed by the things that continue to be written that are problematic. We're not just talking about one or two goofs here. If you want to absolve them of all mistakes because FH made a couple go ahead.
Even though I don't feel that any of this BT stuff is inconsistent, that's a good point. Think of what you're implying: Well, Frank Herbert kind of sucked too, so why not let the new authors suck?

Pretty sure this wouldn't go over well with Byron.

SandRider · Post by **SandRider** » 11 Nov 2008 14:35

thanks for keeping watch - I got up early & had a little too much
Wellers in my coffee - had to take a nap - you can never tell when
Merritt is going to start deleting - he's so erratic ...like just now,
he's blocked this IP again - that's like six or seven times. what an
idiot ...lessee now... click, click and ...click...ahh, FanThomas has
logged on Over There .... he might be good for something today....hum
hum-hum...hum hum ....

chanilover · Post by **chanilover** » 11 Nov 2008 14:47

One of the strangest things I've seen on Dungnovels was one of Pansyass's posts which bore the legend "Last edited by Pansyass on whatever date it was; edited 53 times in total"

53 times! And it was still full of SHIT.

As for the latest drivel about FH inconsistencies, it's incredible that those mongs can't tell the difference between a story which grew and was developed over decades of writing, and yet another fuck up by a sloppy hack with the 'writing' skills of a baboon.

GamePlayer · Post by **GamePlayer** » 11 Nov 2008 15:45

chanilover wrote:As for the latest drivel about FH inconsistencies, it's incredible that those mongs can't tell the difference between a story which grew and was developed over decades of writing, and yet another fuck up by a sloppy hack with the 'writing' skills of a baboon.

People don't like to think too much. They just want to see "Dune" on the front cover and figure it's safe comfort food sci-fi. The author or writing obviously doesn't matter; these readers will project what the loved about Dune, or what they think Dune should be, into the pages of the books.

I suspect KJA could write a Dune-titled book with with "All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy" repeated throughout and readers would still slurp it up