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Posted: **02 Nov 2008 12:03**

SandRider wrote:
ChaniLover wrote:Bullshit.
Which part ?

The part where Byron claimed to know you were on his site under an alias. He's not smart enough to work that out for himself.

How can you tell?

Past form.

Posted: **02 Nov 2008 12:06**

SandChigger wrote:Ah, that brings back memories.

Sunny finally got the message and stopped trying to contact me over on MySpace.

Why was he trying to contact you? Actually, never mind.

Posted: **02 Nov 2008 12:19**

chanilover wrote:Why was he trying to contact you? Actually, never mind.

Exactly.

Never wrote him back so I have no idea. Banning HIM was one of the few times Byron has recovered long enough from his chronic phalangeal enrectalization to do something right.

Posted: **02 Nov 2008 12:23**

SandChigger wrote:
chanilover wrote:Why was he trying to contact you? Actually, never mind.
Exactly.

Never wrote him back so I have no idea. Banning HIM was one of the few times Byron has recovered long enough from his chronic phalangeal enrectalization to do something right.

Poor Scummypuke. Such a loser that not even being a prequelite was enough to save him on Dunenovels.

Posted: **03 Nov 2008 09:31**

SandChigger wrote:[T]He[y]'ll just say everything in their books is from Frank's Holy Notes. Which being holy may not be revealed unto profane eyes! (Infidel, have you not learned this yet?! ) So it's back to their word against reason(?), Frank and McNelly being no more, unless we try tracking down some of the other contributors to the DE.

That just reminded me of that South Park episode with the mormons

Posted: **03 Nov 2008 13:05**

sparafucile wrote:
SandChigger wrote:[T]He[y]'ll just say everything in their books is from Frank's Holy Notes. Which being holy may not be revealed unto profane eyes! (Infidel, have you not learned this yet?! ) So it's back to their word against reason(?), Frank and McNelly being no more, unless we try tracking down some of the other contributors to the DE.
That just reminded me of that South Park episode with the mormons

I love this episode.

I have already find the same: BH & KJA are playing the Joseph Smith with their fans. They are so original that they have to copy a religion that already exist...Aren't you happy only with the Scientology, Mr. Anderson?

What make sick is they act like children when are asked about print those notes: "you all make us cry, now we won't give you the candy".

Posted: **03 Nov 2008 15:17**

SandRider wrote:
SandChigger wrote:This will be the final wedge between the two factions of the fanbase, because there will no longer be any common ground after this.
I wrote:So, what ? War's over ? I can go home now ?
TheDukester wrote:That part of it is over, yes. Discussions of plot and theme are no longer possible.
Great. That's more than fine with me. I've agreed with those of you who have argued that Kevin's
books cloud the discussion of Frank's books, because those elements leak in. I've been confused
by some of the discussions I've read, because you've been arguing about things in Kevin's books,
and I haven't read Kevin's books. So I've been tainted by association - the whole thread on Paul's
Memory Over There is still fucking stuck in my head. And Chig's description of Leto and Jessica
getting it on the jungles of Caladan will stay with me forever. Oh wait. That's not been written yet,
right ? Or has it ?

Anyway, I've got a solution for all this. Stop reading the bullshit. Just stop. If you're reading Paul of
Dune right now, stop it. Just throw it away. And when Jessica of Dune comes out, don't read it.
And for the love of god, don't reread any of Kevins' books. Just keep reading the Four over
and over and over until your mind is cleansed, and you can keep the story straight.

I understand Freak wanted this forum to be a place of fans of both. Perhaps that should be re-thought.
There is a forum for "Fans of Kevin's Books" here - I vote to limit all discussion and even mention of
them to that place. They should be ignored, entirely.

I will, however, of course support the continued ridicule and personal attacks on Kevin, Brian, and my
not so BFF Byron in all threads at all times. In fact, I would encourage it.

Duke's mentioned needing an "ignore" button. I second it.
(You can push my now.)

^^ Well that is pretty much my strategy now. I must admit, I used to kind of enjoy reading their steaming piles of crap and ripping them to shreds. Pointing out all the errors and inconsistancies was rather entertaining. But Hunters and Sandworms was just too much. I refuse to read Paul of dune or any of these others coming out. Its not any fun anymore..

And great point Dukester. I know it eats the preeks up knowing that this crap will never be accepted as canon.

Posted: **04 Nov 2008 13:00**

My hope is that OHers from the future will be so incensed by "Retconn of Dune" (in which KJA (no BH) completely rewrites the entire Dune saga in a single novel from the POV of Shadout Mapes - who didn't really die and was a manifestation of Norma) that they (the OHers) travel back in time to 1996 and kill KJA Terminator-style.

That's all we can hope for at this stage.

HBJ

Posted: **04 Nov 2008 13:02**

^^^

Okay, that would be teh aw3soMeZZ !!l!l

Posted: **05 Nov 2008 03:25**

This won't last for long:

Inkswitch (Joined: 04 Nov 2008 Posts: 1) in a thread called Just finished the prequels......You got to be kidding!! wrote:Cellular transformation? What? The BG don't find that ability usefull? They should have the ancesteral memories of how it is done. Of course, Frank never went that far from the science part of sci/fi. Cellular transformation is the cheapest, most used trick in sci fi. Horrible.

Omnius? My 4 year old could think up a better antagonist. HAL was more menacing in a two hour movie. Simply cr@p. Erasmus is even less interesting. The titans.............bleh. No depth.

These books are an insult. Most obviously a cash grab by Brian and the publishers. I don't buy it for one microsecond that these books were drawn from Frank's outlines. They are completely juvenile and nonsensical.

Am I the only one who thinks this? I struggled through some of the crappiest writing I have ever had to read just to try and catch a glimpse of where Frank was going at the end of Chapterhouse. Nothing to see here. Just somebody banking on their Father's brilliance. I think the "outline" that was supposedly found in a safe deposit box is a load of BS. Thank God I bought these used for cheap. They weren't even worth the $1.00 each I paid for them.

This is the last time I start a series unless it is complete. Publishers did the same thing with Mission Earth when Hubbard died. Tried to pass of cr@p as his work. The same thing will probably happen with the Wheel series, too.

Sigh.

Someone should PM them and invite them over!

Posted: **05 Nov 2008 08:20**

SandChigger wrote:Someone should PM them and invite them over!

I did after that post was made.

Posted: **05 Nov 2008 09:00**

post is still up - he started a new thread with it - good - I get to watch
Byron shake his The Dune-Sketch today and Freakban an innocent man.
I guess he probably just assumes that posts like these must be Outcast
sockpuppets - who else could have such an opinion ?

Hope "inkswitch" got the PM or had found one of the Jacurutu links before
Merritt blocks his IP. That'll be a great story, if this guy is an innocent.
"Man, I signed up on the Official Dune Board, wrote I didn't care for the
new books, and now I can't even look at the site."

Merritt, you create your own enemies.

On a brighter note, the lastest 3 new registered users Over There are spambots.

Edit: That post is still up, but Merritt's blocked this IP again since this morning. This is like the fourth or fifth time he's blocked/unblocked. Could this be a software problem ? Or is he blocking and banning so fast and often, he's confused ? How could that happen ? Shake your The Dune-Sketch again, Byron.

Posted: **05 Nov 2008 13:39**

Well, speak of the devil:

Edit: Just picked up his hate-mail & was gone, I guess .....

Posted: **05 Nov 2008 13:45**

It's probably perverse of me, but I get a kick out of reading the reviews of a new-found reader of the noDune stuff. They all come down to the same thing ("This is Dune? Fuck that."), but there's always a new and interesting way to say that.

Poor Inkswitch. Comes the the DN forum to give an honest opinion about noDune, and gets banned on his first post. I guess his question of "Am I the only one who thinks this?" has been answered the hard way.

HBJ

Posted: **05 Nov 2008 14:06**

Thread deleted. Right on cue, Merritt. Dance, Monkey, Dance !!
I'm assuming it's actually deleted, too, as "Inkswitch" only had one
post, now his profile shows 0. Whether he's been banned, Freakbanned,
banned & blocked, or Freakbanned & blocked, we'll discover in due time.

More name-calling, Freak. Sorry.

Byron Merritt, you are an asshole.
You know who I am.
You know where I am.
You know the corner you are in.
You know my demands.
Let's talk.....

Posted: **05 Nov 2008 14:22**

Baraka Bryan wrote:byron obviously assumes thta any 'first time readers' who criticize the books is just one of us in disguise...

Yup, that's the siege mentality. "Are you now, or have you ever been, a member of the communist party?"

I say let dumbnovels persecute innocent readers; it just makes the look bad and creates more enemies for them.

Posted: **05 Nov 2008 14:38**

GamePlayer wrote:I say let dumbnovels persecute innocent readers; it just makes the look bad and creates more enemies for them.

Another lost customer, too. Think that guy will be rushing out to buy the next noDune in hardback?

Posted: **05 Nov 2008 15:47**

GamePlayer wrote:I say let dumbnovels persecute innocent readers; it just makes the look bad and creates more enemies for them.

Couldn't be sweeter if we'd planned it, my playah.

Posted: **05 Nov 2008 15:53**

.....

........

..........

"It might help to beef up secruity around the WOPR..."

Posted: **05 Nov 2008 16:20**

SandChigger wrote:
GamePlayer wrote:I say let dumbnovels persecute innocent readers; it just makes them look bad and creates more enemies for them.
Couldn't be sweeter if we'd planned it, my playah.

Indeed. "That's what you call ironic."

Posted: **05 Nov 2008 16:27**

SandRider wrote:"It might help to beef up secruity around the WOPR..."

I'm guessing WarGames. Good flick for its time.

HBJ

Posted: **05 Nov 2008 16:29**

Yeah, that's WarGames.

"Mr. McKittrick: after careful consideration, I've come to the conclusion that your new defense system sucks."

Posted: **05 Nov 2008 16:59**

"I'd Piss on a spark plug if it would help"...

"Would you like to play a game...." (in that crazy, cancer throaty vibrater computer voice, still gives me the chills)

Trang

Posted: **05 Nov 2008 17:26**

Hunchback Jack wrote:
SandRider wrote:"It might help to beef up secruity around the WOPR..."
I'm guessing WarGames. Good flick for its time.

HBJ

correct. I remember giggling my ass off in the theater at that line.
yeah, I was high, so what ?
beef up security around the whopper ?
heh heh heh. heh. heh.

and damn was little ali sheedy hot !!
made me have bad thoughts about high school girls for a long time ...

Posted: **05 Nov 2008 18:43**

made me have bad thoughts about high school girls for a long time ...

You mean you stopped?

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