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Re: Dune Art

Posted: 29 Jun 2010 22:56
by SandRider
Freakzilla wrote:I saw this picture and thought of Jacurutu (butte):

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masada ?

Re: Dune Art

Posted: 30 Jun 2010 01:31
by SandChigger
A dumbass hack or two in House Atrocious wrote:"With Salusan bulls?" Leto asked, picturing in his mind the spine-backed beasts, their black heads studded with multiple horns, their eyes faceted. When he had been a younger boy, Leto had often gone into the stables to look at the monstrous animals. Stablemaster Yresk, one of his mother's old retainers from Richese, tended the bulls for Paulus's occasional spectacles.
...
Heavy gates opened with a grinding of suspensor hinges, and the Salusan bull charged out, shaking its massive, multiple-horned head in the dazzling light. Its faceted eyes glittered with feral rage. The scales on the mutated creature's back reflected iridescent colors from its black hide.
...
Eventually the bull became exhausted, its eyes reddened with blood, its snorts heavy and tired as it spilled its life fluid onto the powdery surface of the arena.
I think it's kinda obvious from those descriptions that it's McDune. (And that's not the scene where the Old Duke dies, either.)

I mean, the scene isn't described in any great detail in the original books.

Re: Dune Art

Posted: 30 Jun 2010 04:02
by Serkanner
SandChigger wrote:
A dumbass hack or two in House Atrocious wrote:"Stablemaster Yresk, one of his mother's old retainers from Richese, tended the bulls for Paulus's occasional spectacles.
Is this correct? I always write Paulus' .. without the extra S.

PS: when I read this few sentences it reminds me vividly how bad the actual writing is. It is on the same level as my own fan-fiction and I am definitely not a professional writer.

Re: Dune Art

Posted: 30 Jun 2010 04:44
by Redstar
SandChigger wrote:
A dumbass hack or two in House Atrocious wrote:"With Salusan bulls?" Leto asked, picturing in his mind the spine-backed beasts, their black heads studded with multiple horns, their eyes faceted. When he had been a younger boy, Leto had often gone into the stables to look at the monstrous animals. Stablemaster Yresk, one of his mother's old retainers from Richese, tended the bulls for Paulus's occasional spectacles.
...
Heavy gates opened with a grinding of suspensor hinges, and the Salusan bull charged out, shaking its massive, multiple-horned head in the dazzling light. Its faceted eyes glittered with feral rage. The scales on the mutated creature's back reflected iridescent colors from its black hide.
...
Eventually the bull became exhausted, its eyes reddened with blood, its snorts heavy and tired as it spilled its life fluid onto the powdery surface of the arena.
I think it's kinda obvious from those descriptions that it's McDune. (And that's not the scene where the Old Duke dies, either.)

I mean, the scene isn't described in any great detail in the original books.
That is the most retarded, unnecessary, sci-fi pulp description of an animal I've ever read. There was very little indication in the original books that any animals present were so entirely different from their modern counterparts. I recall something about a six-legged animal in the later books, but it was still mammalian. :roll:

Re: Dune Art

Posted: 30 Jun 2010 06:08
by lotek
From the Real Dune:
Beside the painting lay a black bull's
head mounted on a polished board. The head was a dark island in a sea of wadded
paper. Its plaque lay flat on the floor, and the bull's shiny muzzle pointed at
the ceiling as though the beast were ready to bellow a challenge into this
echoing room.
In the dining hall of the Arrakeen great house, suspensor lamps had been
lighted against the early dark. They cast their yellow glows upward onto the
black bull's head with its bloody horns, and onto the darkly glistening oil
painting of the Old Duke.
The fierce black beast had stood there, head bowed, immobilized and
confused. The Old Duke had turned his back on the horns, cape thrown
flamboyantly over one arm, while cheers rained down from the stands.
So from this the stupid fuck imagined this insult of a giant mutated bull with scales and shiny eyes?

What a dick...
And the worse is he probably thinks he's so fucking smart to have imagined such a beast from so little indication!

Re: Dune Art

Posted: 30 Jun 2010 07:22
by SandChigger
There's no indication in the originals that the bull was anything other than a normal Terran bull. (Though not from Terra, of course.)

There is not a single mention in the originals of "Salusan bulls", yet McDune crawls with them, from the House books through the Legends to Dune 7 to the two Heroes.

You can't see it in the painting here, but the bulls supposedly had insectoid compound eyes.

Stupid. Bullshit. Pure. And extremely simple. KJA's "creativity" is such that it can leave nothing untouched and "unimproved". :twisted:

Re: Dune Art

Posted: 30 Jun 2010 08:31
by lotek
SandChigger wrote:There's no indication in the originals that the bull was anything other than a normal Terran bull. (Though not from Terra, of course.)
i always imagined them slightly bigger than an earth bull, or maybe more cunning/intelligent(or both)... if they were any different at all!
But certainly not that monstruous heresy the hack coughed up!

He's really the living embodiment of fanfic at its worst, not one single original idea and still he thinks he's creative... that deserves a tweet @theKJA!

Re: Dune Art

Posted: 30 Jun 2010 09:06
by Lundse
SandChigger wrote:You can't see it in the painting here, but the bulls supposedly had insectoid compound eyes.
Groan. :roll:

NuDune is like a ten-year-old retelling and embellishing on Dune, with über- in front of everything.

I bet the upcoming Who-Gives-A-Shit-The-Suckers-Will-Buy-It of Dune will feature Duncan's The-Sword-First-Bloodied-On-What-Was-That-Planet-Again as a Vibro-Blade of Doom +7 and the ground car Paul drove into Arrakeen in as a Flame-Scorpion-Mammoth-Tank with poison threads and room for a cyborg.

Re: Dune Art

Posted: 30 Jun 2010 09:08
by SandChigger
Do I sense bitterness? ;)

Re: Dune Art

Posted: 30 Jun 2010 09:17
by lotek
mc dune is salusan bull shit :)

Re: Dune Art

Posted: 30 Jun 2010 14:20
by A Thing of Eternity
SandChigger wrote:
A dumbass hack or two in House Atrocious wrote:"With Salusan bulls?" Leto asked, picturing in his mind the spine-backed beasts, their black heads studded with multiple horns, their eyes faceted. When he had been a younger boy, Leto had often gone into the stables to look at the monstrous animals. Stablemaster Yresk, one of his mother's old retainers from Richese, tended the bulls for Paulus's occasional spectacles.
...
Heavy gates opened with a grinding of suspensor hinges, and the Salusan bull charged out, shaking its massive, multiple-horned head in the dazzling light. Its faceted eyes glittered with feral rage. The scales on the mutated creature's back reflected iridescent colors from its black hide.
...
Eventually the bull became exhausted, its eyes reddened with blood, its snorts heavy and tired as it spilled its life fluid onto the powdery surface of the arena.
I think it's kinda obvious from those descriptions that it's McDune. (And that's not the scene where the Old Duke dies, either.)

I mean, the scene isn't described in any great detail in the original books.
Yarr, I concede defeat!

Re: Dune Art

Posted: 30 Jun 2010 16:32
by SandChigger
:(

It wasn't meant as a battle or contest. Just explaining my reaction... ;)

Re: Dune Art

Posted: 30 Jun 2010 17:42
by A Thing of Eternity
SandChigger wrote::(

It wasn't meant as a battle or contest. Just explaining my reaction... ;)
:lol: I know.

Re: Dune Art

Posted: 11 Jul 2010 08:04
by inhuien
Comic book artist, Paul Pope, has drawn a single page illustrating one of the Commentaries of Muad'Dib.
Frank Herbert wrote:It is said of Muad'dib that once when he saw a weed trying to grow between two rocks, he moved one of the rocks. Later, when the weed was seen to be flourishing, he covered it with the remaining rock. 'That was its fate,' he explained." --From The Commentaries Of Muad'dib


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Originally posted here http://pulphope.blogspot.com/2009/10/muad-dib.html.

Re: Dune Art

Posted: 11 Jul 2010 10:49
by Nekhrun
M'uad Dib?

Re: Dune Art

Posted: 11 Jul 2010 10:57
by inhuien
Did you notice the drawings as well as the spelling mistake?

Re: Dune Art

Posted: 11 Jul 2010 11:49
by Nekhrun
inhuien wrote:Did you notice the drawings as well as the spelling mistake?
I think once I notice mistakes like that it's hard to focus on other things. I checked out his website and am surprised that someone could take the care to interpret the quote but be so careless in other ways. I'd like to see more if he would be a little more careful.

Re: Dune Art

Posted: 11 Jul 2010 13:30
by A Thing of Eternity
This has actually been posted here before, excellent work, spelling mistake or no.

Re: Dune Art

Posted: 11 Jul 2010 16:17
by SandRider
yeah, I was impressed, too, esp after Simon.

I checked around his site, this appears to be a one-off ....
sent some (unanswered) emails about it ...

Re: Dune Art

Posted: 02 Sep 2010 16:14
by inhuien
I haven't seen this one before, another fine scan from http://ski-ffy.blogspot.com/.Image

Sorry for the width, if it's a problem I'll resize it.

Re: Dune Art

Posted: 03 Sep 2010 21:56
by Redstar
I don't think anyone ever posted this, but here's another page from Paul Pope:

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Re: Dune Art

Posted: 03 Sep 2010 23:02
by Superdog
Nekhrun wrote:
inhuien wrote:Did you notice the drawings as well as the spelling mistake?
I think once I notice mistakes like that it's hard to focus on other things. I checked out his website and am surprised that someone could take the care to interpret the quote but be so careless in other ways. I'd like to see more if he would be a little more careful.
Oh c'mon... that page is awesome.

Re: Dune Art

Posted: 16 Sep 2010 10:31
by inhuien
A huge scan.
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Re: Dune Art

Posted: 16 Sep 2010 11:18
by lotek
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that's what I am talking about!
EDIT: not referring to the size of the pic, even though yours is slightly big...

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quite nice...
I'd like to see more!

Re: Dune Art

Posted: 13 Oct 2010 03:57
by Redstar
I frequent an artist's forum (I dabbled in animation a few years ago but settled on writing) and one of our users, Howie, recently posted some cover art he did for a classic project. He chose to feature Dune, which of course interested me. In his own words "It's supposed to be a spice mining facility, I wasn't aware that they had shield walls around them. I'm only going based off of my hazy memory from the movie and wikipedia, I never read the book but I definitely appreciate any insight"

Concepts:

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Final design:

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Finished work

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