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one of the reasons I got so mad so damn quick ....

SandRider wrote:one of the reasons I got so mad so damn quick ....

Well I know I haven't said it yet, but I'm sorry. Arnoldo. Huh. What the fuck was I smoking?

no sir, no apology necessary.
my fault for storming in here like a crazed asshole.

I didn't mean mad at you people.

I meant mad at THEM.

It wasn't me ...

just saw that - I'm still having trouble just getting a basic screenshot

I'd like to see a "Newest Registered User @ DN" thread ....

Baraka Bryan wrote:

Serkanner wrote:It wasn't me ...

whats with the signin blankouts

Don't want to give away sock-puppet accounts to easily ... let Bryon work a bit for it

lundse2 wrote:

boardadmin wrote:

lundse2 wrote:

boardadmin wrote:Frank didn't approve of the encyclopedia. He said it was interesting but held his own council on what would and would not be considered Dune canon.

Frank Herbert, in the foreword to the DE wrote:As the first 'Dune fan,' I give this encyclopedia my delighted approval...

...with the caveat that he might change things around further along the way. That was a possible exception to the general approval, mind you.

Frank also enthusiastically supported Lynch's film. But later mentioned many things he didn't like about it and distanced himself from it. I think the same holds true for the DE.

To summarize:
Boardadmin - Frank Herbert did not approve the DE.
Frank Herbert - I approve the DE.
Boardadmin - But you said that about other stuff too, which you later distanced yourself from, so obviously you do not mean what you say.
Lundse - Hu?

I keep asking him whether he or Frank knew Franks thoughts best and he keeps stalling me (with bullshit like mentioning the movie).
I am not sure this thread will survive, although others are chiming in and asking Byron about his knowledge - and I do not think he is up for inventing his own outright lies (like certain others).

Give no quarter and keep after him.

I like to watch him squirm.

Chig, in reference to something we touched on in passing, and CL can
keep his comments to himself on that one, but what will we do when
Kevin has eaten all of Brian's brain and is himself eaten by OH bears,
and Merrit is in charge and publishing new editions with comments from
Frank like that one above edited out to fit his version of reality ?

The version of reality that exists ONLY on an internet chatboard
that no-one pays any attention to ?

OK, who is Crystal Aura?

You just got me banned at DN!


I got an angry message from Byron, accusing me of sock-puppeting, and I replied he was wrong. He then brought up some IP evidence, so whoever Crystal Aura is, that someone used the same anonymizer as me (pagewash).
I decided to help him out, trusting IPs blindly being a rookie mistake for an admin, told him about the service and gave him the url for a lookup of the owner.
He banned the pagewash IP, and changed my PW or deleted my account!

Maybe it has something to do with my insisting that he answer whether he or Frank is an authority on Frank's opinions (approval of a text, it seems, is not actually the act of publically stating that one approves of it - Byron has not yet confided what approval actually is).


Anyways, no hard feelings, but I am curious...

Serious question:

Why would anyone want to be over there? Other than baiting Byron, of course, which I admit has a certain entertainment value.

Other than that, though ...

The place is an intellectual wasteland full of people who know incredibly little about Dune. What's the attraction?

When did all this happen ? I used pagewash this morning to
retrieve PMs from my contacts in the HLP Underground Resistance
Over There.

I knew I couldn't trust one of the them !

hey, carry this over to the hideout @ T(A)U - I've got some
names to run by you ....

Lundse wrote:OK, who is Crystal Aura?

I just can't get me a break over there any more.

Huh. Crysal Aura's not even on the memberlist anymore.
nuduneman still is. (Freak-banned)
Hell, SandRider's on the memberlist. (prebanned)

good job.

btw, newest registered user is:
SonofSandChigger

Speaking of all of this incestuous forums-lurking, Byron was signed on just a few minutes ago. I guess he must be checking for PMs; he obviously has no interest in posting any longer.

TheDukester wrote:Speaking of all of this incestuous forums-lurking, Byron was signed on just a few minutes ago. I guess he must be checking for PMs; he obviously has no interest in posting any longer.

Good ! There's a few new ones in there from me !!

Wonder what his sockpuppet account is, the one he uses to
come over here and read all the nice things we say about him ?

I'd like to send some mail that way, too.....

Or maybe Simon just emails him screenshots ....

Nah, no sock-puppet needed. Everything here is readable without even signing on.

Duh.

I've going in the backdoors for too long .....






(won't make homojoke. won't)
(head busting. no. don't)

audiobook review, POS:

leagued wrote:Books or readings? The review actually spends more time talking about Scott Brick than about the book itself.

Quote: "This is a superb, solid reading that will appeal to fans and newcomers alike. "

I agree that Scott Brick is great.

SandRider wrote:btw, newest registered user is:
SonofSandChigger

Checked with Bint and it's no son of mine.

how cruel.
to just leave him crying on Bryon's doorstep like that.
You know Merrit will never claim him....

it's sad, all the orphans ...

Daddy ! Daddy !

please, Daddy, doncha crawl so fast !

Here, I've got a good one...

Nekhrun wrote:

boardadmin wrote:That said, I would argue that approval is not acceptance and vice-versa. He found the DE entertaining and approved of its release, but held his own council on what future Dune works would be considered accurate, and not have the DE influence any future writings ...just as Brian and Kevin have not allowed the DE to influence theirs.

What!! Wait a minute.... WHAT?????

You have got to be putting us on. Every one of the similarities between the two then is purely coincidence?

Nekhrun wrote:Here, I've got a good one...

Nekhrun wrote:

boardadmin wrote:That said, I would argue that approval is not acceptance and vice-versa. He found the DE entertaining and approved of its release, but held his own council on what future Dune works would be considered accurate, and not have the DE influence any future writings ...just as Brian and Kevin have not allowed the DE to influence theirs.

What!! Wait a minute.... WHAT?????

You have got to be putting us on. Every one of the similarities between the two then is purely coincidence?

No shit.

[T]He[y]'ll just say everything in their books is from Frank's Holy Notes. Which being holy may not be revealed unto profane eyes! (Infidel, have you not learned this yet?! ) So it's back to their word against reason(?), Frank and McNelly being no more, unless we try tracking down some of the other contributors to the DE.

We've kinda already covered this, though. McNelly claimed the "dead baby Jihad" was his idea. Maybe Frank made notes during their discussions and that's what the Hacks found. (Assuming for arguments sake that they are being honest about not referring to the DE...which I find doubtful.)

We have to assume FH read the entire DE. (Would have been kinda stupid to approve it if he hadn't.) Maybe he also scribbled other ideas from the DE in his notes while thinking about variations or possible developments of them? Who can really say without access to and analysis of the Notes?

(Giving them more benefit of the doubt than they deserve here, you think?)