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Re: Dune Facebook
Posted: 10 Jun 2010 10:07
by D Pope
SandChigger wrote:It's not. It never will be.
Thanks mate! Best news i've had in a year.
Omph EDIT: Fixed tags. D Pope, see what I did to the end of the quoted language? I turned off your quote tag, and now it renders properly.
Re: Dune Facebook
Posted: 10 Jun 2010 19:25
by SandChigger
Tleszer wrote:It's sad, but the first thing I thought of when I read that poem that Chig posted was the movie Sukiyaki Western Django.
Eeeew, that IS sad!
(I still haven't seen that, but I kinda liked the ads/trailers! Was it fun?)
It's actually the beginning of
The Tale of the Heike.
Re: Dune Facebook
Posted: 10 Jun 2010 21:52
by Tleszer
Yeah, it was fun. Cliches abound. Quentin Tarantino's acting was atrocious and almost made me just stop watching the recording (he opens the movie). What I didn't realize at the time is that the entire Japanese cast speaks in English (and I don't mean dubbed English)... it may just be me, but I'm glad I had the captions on because sometimes it was hard for me to make out some of the dialogue because of it.
That part from
The Tale of the Heike is quoted a few times in the movie.
Why familiarity breeds contempt...
Posted: 08 Jul 2010 02:08
by SandChigger
Byron still hasn't answered my PM over on Facebook, or blocked me seeing his pages. The newest post on his Wall:
Byron Merritt If you're cross-eyed and have dyslexia, can you see perfectly?
15 hours ago
Behold the sensitive healthcare giver!
Re: Why familiarity breeds contempt...
Posted: 08 Jul 2010 02:34
by Serkanner
SandChigger wrote:Byron still hasn't answered my PM over on Facebook, or blocked me seeing his pages. The newest post on his Wall:
Byron Merritt If you're cross-eyed and have dyslexia, can you see perfectly?
15 hours ago
Behold the sensitive healthcare giver!
His humour is on the same par as his uncle's writing: abysmal.
Re: Dune Facebook
Posted: 08 Jul 2010 06:35
by inhuien
Byron Merritt If you're cross-eyed and have dyslexia, can you see perfectly?
15 hours ago
If you're a prick and give head is that a form of cannibalism?
Re: Dune Facebook
Posted: 08 Jul 2010 07:19
by lotek
inhuien wrote:
If you're a prick and give head is that a form of cannibalism?
we should ask Spanky, he's elevated blowing one's own horn to an art(and that's about the only thing he does well, or at least with dedication)
Byron Merritt If you're cross-eyed and have dyslexia, can you see perfectly?
15 hours ago
If you have no sense of humour and you can't tell a joke does that make you funny?
(in his case the answer would be unwittingly yes!)
Re: Why familiarity breeds contempt...
Posted: 08 Jul 2010 08:16
by Nekhrun
SandChigger wrote:Byron still hasn't answered my PM over on Facebook, or blocked me seeing his pages. The newest post on his Wall:
Byron Merritt If you're cross-eyed and have dyslexia, can you see perfectly?
15 hours ago
Behold the sensitive healthcare giver!
I can say that having worked with kids who have dyslexia and struggle to read that this is hilarious
What a fucking idiot! I've got a joke.
If you're the grandson of a gifted writer and a massive hypocrite; as well as someone who can't take a bit of criticism, a wannabe writer, a failure at social networking, can't back an opinion up to save your life, and think that a summary is a review and kiss the ass your uncle and the guy who raped your grandfather's legacy...wait, where was I going with this?
Re: Dune Facebook
Posted: 08 Jul 2010 08:45
by SandChigger
Not quite sure, but you were on a roll.
Edit:
By the way, here's a sample of the highbrow content Byron treats his friends to:
He had a whole "penis mini-series" going at one point. I guess when you're a dick you gravitate towards penises?
(Maybe this belongs in the headline thread?
)
Re: Dune Facebook
Posted: 08 Jul 2010 15:14
by Nekhrun
I added it to the OH Facebook page:
http://www.facebook.com/#!/group.php?gi ... 437&ref=ts" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
That kind of behavior belongs up there with kja's idiotic posts.
Re: Dune Facebook
Posted: 09 Jul 2010 00:15
by SandChigger
(I'd still like to know how I ended up an admin on that page/group.
)
In the "No-ships" thread on the Dune group, a right git named Leslie has turned up arguing that the Gammu no-chamber HAD to have been built by the Baron Harkonnen because...
- Feyd-Rautha was the LAST Harkonnen and that after he died at the end of
Dune there were no more Harkonnens who could have built the no-chamber. Therefore it had to have been built by the Baron as depicted in McDune.
His "proof":
- There is no mention of any Harkonnen characters after
Dune except the Alia's Baron-in-Memory.
- Feyd-Rautha HAD to have been the last male Harkonnen because the Baron doesn't execute him after Feyd's attempt at assassinating him. If there had been another potential male heir, the Baron would have executed him and chosen that other male relative.
I've quoted Teg in
Heretics speculating on the Tyrant having let "Family Harkonnen" build the chamber to keep them busy and squandering their fortune. I've also quoted Leto II discussing prescience with Jessica in
Children where he mentions that the type of knowledge of the future normal people seek from oracles is the next day's commodity market prices (whale fur) or political developments (Will a
Harkonnen ever rule on Giedi Prime again?) and asked WHY Leto would refer to the Harkonnens regaining power on their homeworld if there were no more Harkonnens to do so.
Basically the idiot is ignoring any quotes from the originals and dismissing my objections as mere opinion or unwarranted interpretation. So I called him a moron and told him his opinion is shit.
Anybody (Freak) have any other quotes, though, showing that the Harkonnen family was still around after Feyd?
Re: Dune Facebook
Posted: 09 Jul 2010 05:11
by Aquila ka-Hecate
And what about Margot Fenring's child?
Re: Dune Facebook
Posted: 09 Jul 2010 08:33
by Serkanner
Aquila ka-Hecate wrote:And what about Margot Fenring's child?
A daughter raised by the Bene Gesserit. I have no doubts the BG will have conserved this bloodline.
Re: Dune Facebook
Posted: 09 Jul 2010 09:36
by Nekhrun
Serkanner wrote:Aquila ka-Hecate wrote:And what about Margot Fenring's child?
A daughter raised by the Bene Gesserit. I have no doubts the BG will have conserved this bloodline.
What about every Atreides after Duke Leto?
Re: Dune Facebook
Posted: 09 Jul 2010 10:17
by Serkanner
Nekhrun wrote:Serkanner wrote:Aquila ka-Hecate wrote:And what about Margot Fenring's child?
A daughter raised by the Bene Gesserit. I have no doubts the BG will have conserved this bloodline.
What about every Atreides after Duke Leto?
Of course. I am always missing the obvious.
Re: Dune Facebook
Posted: 09 Jul 2010 11:06
by SandChigger
I mentioned the daughter and the fact that she would be an heir but he dismissed it. (Went off on with some silliness about Jessica.) He's all hung up on direct male heirs, doesn't seem to understand that succession in aristocratic families could jump around.
Re: Dune Facebook
Posted: 09 Jul 2010 11:28
by lotek
SandChigger wrote:I mentioned the daughter and the fact that she would be an heir but he dismissed it. (Went off on with some silliness about Jessica.) He's all hung up on direct male heirs, doesn't seem to understand that succession in aristocratic families could
jump around.
Re: Dune Facebook
Posted: 09 Jul 2010 12:13
by Serkanner
lotek wrote:SandChigger wrote:I mentioned the daughter and the fact that she would be an heir but he dismissed it. (Went off on with some silliness about Jessica.) He's all hung up on direct male heirs, doesn't seem to understand that succession in aristocratic families could
jump around.
I never eat a pig, because a pig is a cop.
Re: Dune Facebook
Posted: 09 Jul 2010 20:06
by Freakzilla
SandChigger wrote:Anybody (Freak) have any other quotes, though, showing that the Harkonnen family was still around after Feyd?
The pattern took shape. Wealth. Gammu assumed a new role in his Mentat
computations. Gammu had been gutted long ago by the Harkonnens, abandoned as a
festering carcass, which the Danians had restored.
...
When the Harkonnens were forced to abandon it, colonists left behind by the
Scattering came from the Danian group, calling it by the Halleck name given to
it in the great remapping. The colonists had been known as Caladanian in those
days but millennia tended to shorten some labels.
It sounds to me like the Harkonnens abandoned GP during The Scattering.
Re: Dune Facebook
Posted: 10 Jul 2010 08:15
by SandChigger
Thanks, Freak. Those are pretty devastating, too. I think the idiot has retired from the field, though.
Re: Dune Facebook
Posted: 10 Jul 2010 14:22
by merkin muffley
Re: Dune Facebook
Posted: 11 Jul 2010 17:01
by SandChigger
Again, FRESH stupid from Official Dune (emphasis added):
David: Why isn’t Duke Leto’s first born son or wife from the House books ever mentioned again in Dune, Dune Messiah, or children of Dune?
21 hours ago
Official Dune: Lots of things are brought up in the Dune universe and dropped. For instance, do you remember that Leto II wasn’t the first Leto II? Chani and Paul’s first born son (Leto II) was killed during the Harkonnen’s destruction of House Atreides on Arrakis. Was he ever mentioned again in any of the later Dune books by Frank? Depends on the importance of the characters to the overall story, I guess.
5 hours ago
WHO ARE THESE DUMBFUCKS? And WHERE do they find them?!
Someone needs to reread
Heretics.
Re: Dune Facebook
Posted: 11 Jul 2010 19:24
by Nekhrun
Frank did it too so we're just following the groundwork that he set.
Bullshit.
Re: Dune Facebook
Posted: 11 Jul 2010 20:21
by Tleszer
Well, I just added this.
"Was he ever mentioned again in any of the later Dune books by Frank?"
Actually he was. In Heretics of Dune, one of the Rakian priests poses a question about the "first" Leto II and wonders at his significance. Another priest says that the first child was a part of the God Emperor.
"Our Divided God was reincarnated with part of Him remaining in heaven to mediate the Ascendancy. That part of Him became nameless then, as the True Essence of God should always be!" -Heretics of Dune
It's really a comment about the mental hoops one who places himself wholly into a religion may act.
I was going to add more about the ridiculousness of McDune and how it doesn't really matter or add anything to Frank's writings, but figured it would only get deleted and defeat the purpose of making Byron out to be an idiot.
Re: Dune Facebook
Posted: 12 Jul 2010 10:57
by SandRider
very nice, good job.
is this "David" a regular braindead pretard or is that question a side-shot at the Spankster ?
the obvious answer is that Frank intended the Duke Leto to have one son,
and did not leave any "notes" about another ... making Spanky McDune
stupid and a liar ....
