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SandChigger wrote:If there's anything that would confirm this, it's probably in the alt.fan.dune archives. (Possibly a direct posting from McNelly?) I've never been able to find it, though.

Master B posted that he had a link or quote that he would look for, but I'm not aware that he found it...

Redstar wrote:

SandChigger wrote:If there's anything that would confirm this, it's probably in the alt.fan.dune archives. (Possibly a direct posting from McNelly?) I've never been able to find it, though.

Master B posted that he had a link or quote that he would look for, but I'm not aware that he found it...

I haven't been able to turn up anything on any site except the same copy-and-pasted addition of "It was a joke" added in parenthesis. Just how rumours spread online.

So Master B either presents that linked quote, or we get the actual notes. If not I doubt it's true.... When did everyone first start hearing it?

SandChigger wrote:Even a reference to the anecdote dated BEFORE House Atrocious was being mouthfarted about would be valuable IMHO, in that it would show that it had nothing to do with the depredations of The Dymnambic Duo.

From: wmcnelly@ccvax.fullerton.edu (Will McNelly)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dune
Subject: Dune Ency as canon
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 1995 11:52:00 -1000

Of course the DE is not canon, and of course it IS canon - but does it really make any difference? As I said, it is a work of fiction about a work of fiction, and it was compiled with FH's full approval and enthusiastic encouragement. I consulted with him by phone very often, and he and I had only one quibble - my assertion that Rev Mother Helen Gaius Mohiam was Jessica's true mother - which is contrary to what the books themselves say where FH identified some shadowy figure as Tanicia Nerus as her mother. However--REMEMBER that the material in the Riculoan crystals were stored there by Leto who severely edited and modified and changed the material to suit his own purposes. Leto was in effect a modifier of history, so as I told Frank, my assertion about Jessica was just as valid as Leto's - and he ultimately agreed - thinking that it was the kind of scholarly BS that academics go in for - and he had a good laugh out of it.

As to the languages: FH told me that he had learned several hundred words of Arabic in preparation for the book - and some of the words in the books are severely modified - as it natural with languages - by the passage of time. The author of all of the articles on languages in the DE was Walter Meyers, prof of English and linguistics at NC State - the author of a very influential book on SF and linguistics.

Will McNelly

Omphalos wrote:

DuneFishUK wrote:

Omphalos wrote:Look here:

http://www.thestargates.com/dune/index.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Fantastic - I thought we'd lost that site.

since it keeps going away I downloaded the entire thing a few months ago (along with about 50 other sites that seem to be fleeting). If it ever disappears again, we will still have it. Ill be updating the links at the secondary sources page to refer to thye archived copy as soon as I can get to it.

Lisan Al-Gaib wrote:

Omphalos wrote:

DuneFishUK wrote:

Omphalos wrote:Look here:

http://www.thestargates.com/dune/index.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Fantastic - I thought we'd lost that site.

since it keeps going away I downloaded the entire thing a few months ago (along with about 50 other sites that seem to be fleeting). If it ever disappears again, we will still have it. Ill be updating the links at the secondary sources page to refer to thye archived copy as soon as I can get to it.

Hi Omphalos, do you still have those documents available?

Cpt. Aramsham wrote:And T(A)U is ...?