Re: Good Morning, Jacurutu!
Posted: 23 Jun 2009 22:08
Yeah, you're too nice. 

DUNE DISCUSSION FORUM FOR ORTHODOX HERBERTARIANS
http://www.jacurutu.com/
I'm happy SOMEONE is being nice...SandChigger wrote:Yeah, you're too nice.
redbugpest wrote:Why yes I am.Nekhrun wrote:You're still here aren't you?redbugpest wrote: I thought this was a board open to *anyone*
He's no kid. He's 44, if the info on his MySpace page is to be believed.Sev wrote:I'm surprised to see the kid has the balls to actually join...
Good for you. I think that the fundamental problem with a few of the peeps around here is that they have gone beyond being prejudicial about the books. They moved away from being able to have real discussions and have crossed into the realm of Cyber Bullying.Lundse wrote:Hi, and welcome.
I have this odd idea that I should welcome discussion of my beliefs, otherwise they will atrophy and become prejudices. So I will welcome debate over the KJA books, and hope to keep it civil at to the point, of course. I invite you to have a gander at this:
viewtopic.php?f=13&t=1495&p=51813
And hope that you are also willing to test your beliefs.
1. We can't be prejudiced about something we've read and experienced and regretted. That is not prejudice, that's just judging, no "pre" about it.redbugpest wrote:Good for you. I think that the fundamental problem with a few of the peeps around here is that they have gone beyond being prejudicial about the books. They moved away from being able to have real discussions and have crossed into the realm of Cyber Bullying.Lundse wrote:Hi, and welcome.
I have this odd idea that I should welcome discussion of my beliefs, otherwise they will atrophy and become prejudices. So I will welcome debate over the KJA books, and hope to keep it civil at to the point, of course. I invite you to have a gander at this:
viewtopic.php?f=13&t=1495&p=51813
And hope that you are also willing to test your beliefs.
The blurb Sandchigger posted above about being kicked off boards for “pointing out how badly the new McDune novels suck and what a piss poor "author" Kevin J. Anderson is, for making fun of that non-entity Brian Herbert, and for reminding the Herbert’s just how badly they have sold out Frank Herbert's legacy” is an example of how far they have moved from a conservative core herbertonian point of view into a radical “Believe as we do or else” view.
I personally think that Sandchigger is offensive and derogating to people that like the books as a form of personal entertainment, and that some others take what he does too seriously – following him blindly like lemmings running for the cliff edge.
But, we will talk more about that in other threads, as this one is becoming ponderously long, and is veering of the topic of Hi and Welcome.
I always keep an open mind, and am willing to change my belief structure as new information becomes available. This will go where it goes.
In that case, he's even more welcome!Nekhrun wrote:Freak, this is our ol' buddy bconway.
It is, but the management is not responsible for the actions of the members. If you're a KJA/BH fan and not prepared to defend your position and you don't have a thick skin, this might not be the place for you.redbugpest wrote:Wow - Not the warm welcome I expected from you, Chiggie ol buddy!SandChigger wrote:Go fuck yourself, asswipe.
I thought this was a board open to *anyone*
My My. *shaking head* such an angry chigger....
A word of warning: Membership here may result in a ban at the official Dune Novels forum. There's not much action there anyway, from what I here.redbugpest wrote:I should sign up at DN as well.
If he want's to try, he's welcome.Sev wrote:I'm surprised to see the kid has the balls to actually join, but seriously doubt he's the mental skills and general Dune knowledge needed to mix it with a lot of our senior members - hell, I've been reading Frank for 25 years and don't consider myself in the same league knowledge-wise. This could be embarrassing, but welcome nonetheless.
Schu wrote:1. We can't be prejudiced about something we've read and experienced and regretted. That is not prejudice, that's just judging, no "pre" about it.Actually, it’s an opinion, of which I am entitled to my ownredbugpest wrote:Good for you. I think that the fundamental problem with a few of the peeps around here is that they have gone beyond being prejudicial about the books. They moved away from being able to have real discussions and have crossed into the realm of Cyber Bullying.Lundse wrote:Hi, and welcome.
I have this odd idea that I should welcome discussion of my beliefs, otherwise they will atrophy and become prejudices. So I will welcome debate over the KJA books, and hope to keep it civil at to the point, of course. I invite you to have a gander at this:
viewtopic.php?f=13&t=1495&p=51813
And hope that you are also willing to test your beliefs.
The blurb Sandchigger posted above about being kicked off boards for “pointing out how badly the new McDune novels suck and what a piss poor "author" Kevin J. Anderson is, for making fun of that non-entity Brian Herbert, and for reminding the Herbert’s just how badly they have sold out Frank Herbert's legacy” is an example of how far they have moved from a conservative core herbertonian point of view into a radical “Believe as we do or else” view.
I personally think that Sandchigger is offensive and derogating to people that like the books as a form of personal entertainment, and that some others take what he does too seriously – following him blindly like lemmings running for the cliff edge.
But, we will talk more about that in other threads, as this one is becoming ponderously long, and is veering of the topic of Hi and Welcome.
I always keep an open mind, and am willing to change my belief structure as new information becomes available. This will go where it goes.
2. Nope, it's plain truth that people get kicked off dunenovels.com for merely stating that they dislike the work of Brian Herbert and KJA (or sometimes not even that).Have never haunted there, so I will have to take your word for it
3. You're damn right SC does this partly as a form of entertainment, as do most of the rest of us, but there's no lemmings about it, just people doing what they enjoymaybe if you weren't so easy to kick around we'd reconsider. Probably not though... (also lemmings don't really do that, dumbass)The lemming reference was a metaphor for being a follower - sorry if you couldn't quite understand that. They do, in fact jump off cliffs during migration, just not as a form of mass suicide.
I hope this Wikipedia excerpt clarifies it a bit.
“On occasion, and particularly in the case of the Norway lemmings in Scandinavia, large migrating groups will reach a cliff overlooking the ocean. They will stop until the urge to press on causes them to jump off the cliff and start swimming, sometimes to exhaustion and death.
Due to their association with this odd behavior, lemming suicide is a frequently-used metaphor in reference to people who go along unquestioningly with popular opinion”
4. You may keep an open mind (good for you, bucko!) but that doesn't help if you're a weak-minded fool that wouldn't know good literature if it kicked him in the ass. Hey guys, can someone get in to some kind of novel suit (say, the novel "Dune") and kick this guy in the ass?
5. Be a good boy and retype the parts in red. Also explain to me how I can be more derogating to people like you, it's hard, and I would appreciate some advice.
Don't go too fast for him, GP; it's only like his second day.GamePlayer wrote:... if you're claiming lemming suicide wasn't your metaphorical intent, don't quote a passage that specifically reads lemming suicide as "evidence" ...
Oooooh, nice move. Unexpected, cunning, and brutal. It's got that whole Dr. Yueh vibe going for it.GamePlayer wrote:Actually, I'm switching sides ...