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Re: Shysterhood page finally up on Amazon US!
Posted: 01 Nov 2011 21:28
by JustSomeGuy
SandRider wrote:when Stilgar and the Secret
Ghola of the first Leto II went to that forest planet and trained up the native
species (cute & cuddly yet mega-deadly and ferocious teddy-bear-looking things)
to fight Feyd Rautha's Secret Twin Brother,and ..... uh .... fuck, I just can't make
up this kinda shit anymore ....
You are making it up, right?

Re: Shysterhood page finally up on Amazon US!
Posted: 01 Nov 2011 21:33
by JustSomeGuy
Wookieepedia wrote:
The group is attacked by a pack of Wampas, led by the same Wampa Luke dismembered several years ago.
How was that possible?
Keith is a bad writer, but he
is successful. Am I wrong? The thought of him being attached to the
Dune name.. Rage. Sadness.
Re: Shysterhood page finally up on Amazon US!
Posted: 02 Nov 2011 00:37
by Ampoliros
If by successful you mean he sells as many books as anything else attached to a IP he didn't make himself.
No one buys a KJA novel. They buy a X IP novel written by Kevin J Anderson, or & Kevin J Anderson.
Re: Shysterhood page finally up on Amazon US!
Posted: 02 Nov 2011 01:08
by Sardaukar Capt
Ampoliros wrote:If by successful you mean he sells as many books as anything else attached to a IP he didn't make himself.
No one buys a KJA novel. They buy a X IP novel written by Kevin J Anderson, or & Kevin J Anderson.
Exactly.
In my younger days, I bought my fair share of IP books like Star Trek (mostly Next Gen), Aliens, some Star Wars, and Resident Evil (don't flame me for that one lol) also probably some other properties that escape me at the moment and I was never aware of who the author was let alone seek out a book by a particular one.
Re: Shysterhood page finally up on Amazon US!
Posted: 02 Nov 2011 03:51
by Hunchback Jack
I still have his X-files novelizations, and I must admit, they are not bad. He says within Mulder and Scully's characters pretty well, and doesn't try to "one-up" the series in coolness or weirdness. I don't recall the writing being terrible, either, but then, I have a higher tolerance for bad writing in novelizations.
I think I've said before that it's this kind of writing he's probably best at - working in an existing franchise that is constrained enough that he can't go too far astray. If he had remained this kind of writer and never done Dune, I'd have probably said "adios" and wished him the best.
HBJ
Re: Shysterhood page finally up on Amazon US!
Posted: 02 Nov 2011 10:58
by SadisticCynic
Except his Star Wars novels are literally among the worst written, and there are some really bad SW novels...
Damn it Amp, why did you have to remind me about Darksaber?!

Re: Shysterhood page finally up on Amazon US!
Posted: 02 Nov 2011 11:03
by SandRider
"Dark-sabre" .... I get it !!
I think I just found Torus McCardigan's favourite weapon ...
Re: Shysterhood page finally up on Amazon US!
Posted: 02 Nov 2011 11:07
by Sardaukar Capt
SandChigger wrote:Sardaukar Capt wrote:the Battle for Cornhole
Seriously, do the titles for the whole series.

House Analingus
House Hypocrite
House Cornholio
Bunghole Butler Jihad
Machine CrudMuncher
Battle of Cornhole
Cunters of Dune
Sandturds of Dune
PoopChute Pirate of Dune
Queefs of Dune
SisterFister of Dune
Re: Shysterhood page finally up on Amazon US!
Posted: 02 Nov 2011 12:02
by Ampoliros
SadisticCynic wrote:Except his Star Wars novels are literally among the worst written, and there are some really bad SW novels...
Damn it Amp, why did you have to remind me about Darksaber?!

Just in case you were starting to doubt the level of rage you had towards what has been done to literacy by KJA.
Re: Shysterhood page finally up on Amazon US!
Posted: 05 Nov 2011 00:51
by Ampoliros
http://www.goodreads.com/giveaway/show/ ... od-of-dune
Anyone want to help me get a head start on my SoD Notes?
Re: Shysterhood page finally up on Amazon US!
Posted: 05 Nov 2011 01:10
by SandRider
is 700 people in this type of contest there average or what ?
and how do I help you win without actually doing anything ?
Re: Shysterhood page finally up on Amazon US!
Posted: 05 Nov 2011 01:15
by SandRider
Every one of these characters, and all of these groups, will become enmeshed in the contest between Reason and Faith. All of them will be forced to choose sides in the inevitable crusade that could destroy humankind forever….
except ... well, this is a pre-prequel, so I'm betting "humankind" will survive ....
and I thought it was a "jihad" ... now it's a "crusade" ?
no thanks, don't want no part of that there ...
Anakin Idaho ?
really ?
Re: Shysterhood page finally up on Amazon US!
Posted: 05 Nov 2011 01:21
by Ampoliros
Well, I just realized that the whole 'secret' crap about Mentats will be that Albans will be literally fusing them with parts of Erasmus.
Hence "Human Computers".
3
2
1
EDIT: Incoming rant. But first sleep.
summary of rant: Fuck you.
Re: Shysterhood page finally up on Amazon US!
Posted: 05 Nov 2011 10:00
by SandChigger
Sardaukar Capt wrote:House Analingus
House Hypocrite
House Cornholio
Bunghole Butler Jihad
Machine CrudMuncher
Battle of Cornhole
Cunters of Dune
Sandturds of Dune
PoopChute Pirate of Dune
Queefs of Dune
SisterFister of Dune
By the way, did you see the tour dates & locations?! It's a FUCKING DREAM TOUR!!!
SISTERHOOD OF DUNE TOUR DATES ANNOUNCED:
Kevin:
Jan 3, Denver
Jan 4, Minneapolis [Nekhrun?]
Jan 5, Chicago [Who's up there again?]
Jan 6, Dayton OH
Jan 7, Cincinnati
Jan 8, Atlanta [Freak]
Jan 9, Orlando [Mandy?]
Jan 10, Dallas [Amp or 'Rider?]
Jan 11, Houston [Ditto?]
Brian:
Jan 3, Seattle
Jan 4, Portland
Jan 6, Sacramento [Omph]
Jan 8, Redondo Beach
Jan 9, Pasadena
Jan 11, San Diego
Jan 14, Vancouver
And everybody sing along now...
I'll be home for Christmas
You can count on meeeeeeeeeeeeeee-heee-heee-heee-heeeeeeeeeeeee!
Dayton AND Cincinnati.

We almost got the bitch covered.
I know we have people in Seattle and Portland, right? And Redstar is also in California. Kevin is of course the primary, but someone should be at Brian's performances just to report in on how he's holding up and if there are any fuck-ups or revelations of a real rift between the two.
Mmmm... GOOD TIMES!!!

Re: Shysterhood page finally up on Amazon US!
Posted: 05 Nov 2011 15:26
by SandRider
wait ... so they will not be appearing together .... ?
hmmm ....
Re: Shysterhood page finally up on Amazon US!
Posted: 05 Nov 2011 15:30
by Serkanner
SandRider wrote:wait ... so they will not be appearing together .... ?
hmmm ....
That was my first reaction as well ... not one date together. Who is fooling who any more about them being a "duo".
Re: Shysterhood page finally up on Amazon US!
Posted: 05 Nov 2011 16:02
by Nekhrun
SandChigger wrote:Jan 4, Minneapolis [Nekhrun?]
I'll see what I can do.
Re: Shysterhood page finally up on Amazon US!
Posted: 05 Nov 2011 16:15
by SandRider
I had two thoughts simultaneously (which almost caused my head to bust wide open, but ...)
1: the obvious (continuation of) the friction between the two;one or the other (or both) has really had enough of being around the
other (or both) ... it could be that Keith's tired of working about Brian's Amtrak schedule, or something ...
but, 2:
is this the opportunity to get Brian separated from Keith in a public forum and possible get some truth, or genuine opinion from him ?
I'd sure like to see that - the exact same question posed to both of them separately and the differences in their answers ...
Re: Shysterhood page finally up on Amazon US!
Posted: 05 Nov 2011 18:50
by Ampoliros
I still think that Brian is slowly coming to regret all they have added to Dune, especially with Keith's intentions towards the series becoming more and more obvious (cash cow, catapult to stardom/legitimacy).
Re: Shysterhood page finally up on Amazon US!
Posted: 05 Nov 2011 19:14
by D Pope
Agreed, his passive agressive snippets in the last few interviews leave me wondering why he simply won't pull the purse strings snug around kevies neck. Then reality sets in.
edit; "I like money." -Freto, from Idiocracy
Re: Shysterhood page finally up on Amazon US!
Posted: 05 Nov 2011 21:26
by Sardaukar Capt
I suspect Brian may not like where Dune has gone either. Problem is, he's just a member of the HLP. As far as keeping KJA on board, he is just one of the group that gets to vote on that. All the others could probably care less about Frank's legacy and just want the checks to keep rolling in and I'm sure KJA lobbies and postures to them all the time like "I'm a best selling author ... blah blah... you'll make the most money with me." So the rest of the HLP keep him around. They come off like parasites more than family members.
If Brian and KJA really aren't getting along then Brian needs to grow a backbone and take his name off any further Dune books. But then again, what is the end game after that. Would any reputable author come in now that so much of the backstory of Dune has been FUBAR'd. Because its pretty obvious Brian neither has the confidence himself nor his family's confidence to write the books alone.
Personally if they aren't going to just stop publishing McDune books, I would prefer a scenario where they ditch KJA. Give Dune a rest. Then approach reputable authors and say come do a Dune book in our sandbox. Re-write KJA continuity if you want but just don't change Frank's canon that he's laid down. Otherwise you have free reign and your name is the only one on the book. Brian could act as more of an editor than phantom writing partner. I think truly reputable authors would like that opportunity and we could get some actual original stories in the Dune universe and not the drivel we've gotten over the past decade. But changes of that are slim and none with those greedy shits of the HLP who want to turn Dune into a serialized Star Wars style novelized universe to keep regular checks coming in.
As far as the tour goes. I could care less to go see that moron KJA, but I hope some Cast Outs go to the West Coast dates and grill Brian good about what KJA is trying to do with the retconning in these last several books.
Re: Shysterhood page finally up on Amazon US!
Posted: 06 Nov 2011 04:14
by Omphalos
I might be able to take Brian in Seattle and/or portland too. I go to both allatime.
Re: Shysterhood page finally up on Amazon US!
Posted: 06 Nov 2011 12:40
by Ampoliros
I really have no care to see KJA, even if he's in my neck of the woods. I don't need the temptation to do something stupid/hilarious.
I'd actually like to talk to Brian, but he never comes over here.
Re: Shysterhood page finally up on Amazon US!
Posted: 06 Nov 2011 14:41
by SandRider
you know .... seriously ... I don't know that I could actually stand in the same comic book shop in some suburban mall
with him without beating what's left of the hair off his head ... seriously ....
Re: Shysterhood page finally up on Amazon US!
Posted: 07 Nov 2011 08:39
by Freakzilla
That's why I like to bring at least one of my children with me to those things, keeps me from getting arrested.
But, I might not have a choice this time, depends on if it's my weekend or not.
I can't read the link from work, can someone post the contents?