Singular form of Iduali
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not evrybody that is new to the Sietch but if it indeed is someone who's been here before and chose to hide his identity there is cause to believe he'd know about it...SandChigger wrote:Not everybody knows what T(A)U is.
It's The (Almost) Undeleted, Omphalos' science-fiction site.
but I am paranoid and full of conspirashit so don't pay attention to me

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Maybe it never came up.
Just saying... 


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Before my ID swap, I had only posted a few times. I am hiding from other people, not Jacurutu.lotek wrote:not evrybody that is new to the Sietch but if it indeed is someone who's been here before and chose to hide his identity there is cause to believe he'd know about it...SandChigger wrote:Not everybody knows what T(A)U is.
It's The (Almost) Undeleted, Omphalos' science-fiction site.
but I am paranoid and full of conspirashit so don't pay attention to me

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fair enough then, sorry for the overly suspicious attitude but hey this is the interwebz, it made people like JC Harwood possible so anything goes really 

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Don't feel bad.lotek wrote:but I am paranoid and full of conspirashit

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SandChigger wrote:Don't feel bad.lotek wrote:but I am paranoid and full of conspirashit

I don't
I revel in it

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I thought I had a tentative answer to this one this evening.
The Form IV verbal noun is formed by prefixing 'i- to a root and placing a long â after the second literal. For K - T - B, this would give 'iktâb, meaning "causing to write; dictation". So if there were a root like D - W - L, the verbal noun would be 'idwâl, which would just need the adjective-forming -î suffix to give 'Idwâlî or something passably close enough to Iduali.
There is in fact a verb dâla (root D - W - L). Its Form IV verbal noun would mean "giving ascendancy to, making victorious, letting triumph, granting victory; replacing, exchanging, substituting." No real connection with "water insects", but who can account for the development of new meanings?
The problem, though, is the presence of that W in the middle makes it a hollow verb, which means the form of the verbal noun is slightly different than the pattern I gave above: 'idâla(h). If we try to add the -î suffix to that, we'll get 'idâlatî (Idalati), which is nothing at all like what we want.
Ah well.
The Form IV verbal noun is formed by prefixing 'i- to a root and placing a long â after the second literal. For K - T - B, this would give 'iktâb, meaning "causing to write; dictation". So if there were a root like D - W - L, the verbal noun would be 'idwâl, which would just need the adjective-forming -î suffix to give 'Idwâlî or something passably close enough to Iduali.
There is in fact a verb dâla (root D - W - L). Its Form IV verbal noun would mean "giving ascendancy to, making victorious, letting triumph, granting victory; replacing, exchanging, substituting." No real connection with "water insects", but who can account for the development of new meanings?
The problem, though, is the presence of that W in the middle makes it a hollow verb, which means the form of the verbal noun is slightly different than the pattern I gave above: 'idâla(h). If we try to add the -î suffix to that, we'll get 'idâlatî (Idalati), which is nothing at all like what we want.
Ah well.

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good job!
that's what I like to see
was your dictation example a coincidence though?
that's what I like to see

was your dictation example a coincidence though?
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Yeah, pretty much. Root K-T-B "write" is kind-of the standard used by all the grammarians. A happy coincidence. 
