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Lynch's True Intentions?
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and his Dune doesn't seem to have that many fans after all(click on pic):
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Would you have paid for it?(if money was not an issue of course)
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Would you have paid for it?(if money was not an issue of course)
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Hell yeah. But it looks like shit.
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- Redstar
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I'm a big fan of his adaptation. I just think someone should cut out a lot of the fluff. Unfortunately, adding things missing from the book would be difficult, but at least slimming it down to a better sitting-time as well as getting rid of the narm-tastic scenes could help it a lot.lotek wrote:and his Dune doesn't seem to have that many fans after all
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"cut out a lot of the fluff" that's nice way of saying cutting the BSRedstar wrote:I'm a big fan of his adaptation. I just think someone should cut out a lot of the fluff. Unfortunately, adding things missing from the book would be difficult, but at least slimming it down to a better sitting-time as well as getting rid of the narm-tastic scenes could help it a lot.lotek wrote:and his Dune doesn't seem to have that many fans after all
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I liked a the visuals, sets and costumes which did look like the picture I had in mind when reading the books, but I believe Lynch failed(on purpose or not)to capture the essence of Dune(a daunting task indeed!)
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I thought his use of rennaisance imagry to visually depict the feudal society was brilliant.
Heart plugs, cat milking, pug dogs, weirding modules... not so much.
Heart plugs, cat milking, pug dogs, weirding modules... not so much.
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I've read that Frank especially liked the use of renaissance imagery, so that's one thing he thought was done right as well.
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Although no one has yet explained why 238th-century Galactic Baroque should look like European (Terran) Renaissance... ![Wink ;)](./images/smilies/icon/wink.gif)
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Because 238th-century butterfly dresses look worse.
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It was more a time of hats and outré headdresses, actually. ![Wink ;)](./images/smilies/icon/wink.gif)
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Fashion is cyclical, like everything else.
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I'd like to see what he could have done without interference from studio and producers. he's a bright guy, I'm sure he was able to comprehend the books' meaning.Freakzilla wrote:Even though I didn't like his Dune effort, I'd like to see what he would have done with the next two.
wasn't Mulholland Drive written originally to be a TV series and after the studio rejected it he wrote an ending? I wonder why studios even try to have him write anything for TV.Seraphan wrote:Mulholland Drive is a great example of that.
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Harq al Ada wrote:wasn't Mulholland Drive written originally to be a TV series and after the studio rejected it he wrote an ending? I wonder why studios even try to have him write anything for TV.
IMDB wrote:Originally filmed in 1999 on a budget of $8 million as a made-for-TV pilot, new scenes were filmed one year later on a $7 million budget given by the French film studio Studio Canal to wrap up the open ending which had been left unresolved in the original version so that a TV series could follow.
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What happened to it, then? The ending, I mean? It certainly wasn't in my copy of the DVD.Harq al Ada wrote:wasn't Mulholland Drive written originally to be a TV series and after the studio rejected it he wrote an ending?
That's two or so hours I want back. Not to mention Lynch's absolute last chance with me. He'll never again waste my time.
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the ending was the true start. the first part was the true end. if you cut the first 2/3rds or so of the movie and put it after her masturbation scene then it makes sense.TheDukester wrote:What happened to it, then? The ending, I mean? It certainly wasn't in my copy of the DVD.Harq al Ada wrote:wasn't Mulholland Drive written originally to be a TV series and after the studio rejected it he wrote an ending?
That's two or so hours I want back. Not to mention Lynch's absolute last chance with me. He'll never again waste my time.
the end is reality. the start of the movie is her fantasy of how her life would be better if she wasn't a D class actor with no prospects.
I love Lynch, but I can see how he can infuriate people.
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that's part of the reason I like him. and I really like his version of Dune.SimonH wrote:I love Lynch, but I can see how he can infuriate people.
anyone seen The Straight Story http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0166896/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; ?
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Saw a largish bit of it late one night when I was really tired. Liked what I remember seeing of it.Harq al Ada wrote:anyone seen The Straight Story http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0166896/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; ?
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Saw it a long time ago. I remember loving it.SandChigger wrote:Saw a largish bit of it late one night when I was really tired. Liked what I remember seeing of it.Harq al Ada wrote:anyone seen The Straight Story http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0166896/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; ?
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Perhaps for hope of another success like Twin Peaks was. Even though that show got cancelled. Lynch asked for it though.I wonder why studios even try to have him write anything for TV.
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I was always under the impression that it was a little successful despite the networks and not as successful as it might have been at the time because they kept moving the day of the week. and after 2 seasons abc canceled it because of ratings.Seraphan wrote:Perhaps for hope of another success like Twin Peaks was. Even though that show got cancelled. Lynch asked for it though.I wonder why studios even try to have him write anything for TV.
it wasn't so much successful as it was a television anomaly that received a lot of attention initially but was soon corrected by abc and the majority of tv viewers. somewhat intelligent television rarely lasts especially on commercial television (the tv before cable was big).
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True, the decline of the show's ratings gave the excuse for it's cancelation but thing is, even the show's decline is somewhat Lynch's responsibility. He wussed out of the show after the identity of Laura Palmer's killer was revealed because he and Mark Frost gave in to the network's pressures.Harq al Ada wrote:I was always under the impression that it was a little successful despite the networks and not as successful as it might have been at the time because they kept moving the day of the week. and after 2 seasons abc canceled it because of ratings.
You're right, it was definitely an anomaly. In my point of view the show would have flourished if it were made today. Back then the majority of people watched it only because of the mystery of Laura Palmer's death. They didnt pay as much attention to the fact that the show was about the characters around her and how her death affected the whole town. The scene of her funeral should've made that clear enough.Harq al Ada wrote:it wasn't so much successful as it was a television anomaly that received a lot of attention initially but was soon corrected by abc and the majority of tv viewers..
Unfortunetly that's exactly how it is and we're full of examples of that.Harq al Ada wrote: somewhat intelligent television rarely lasts especially on commercial television (the tv before cable was big)
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Any idea why the Expanded Edition prologue of the Lynch adaptation says it's the year "10,192", one year later than in the Theatrical prologue?
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I never noticed that.Redstar wrote:Any idea why the Expanded Edition prologue of the Lynch adaptation says it's the year "10,192", one year later than in the Theatrical prologue?
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Just to keep us OH on our toes I guess.....