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Re: Preek Arguments

Postby SadisticCynic » 07 Jul 2010 19:10

Kensai wrote:Read some of SandRider's comments on Keepingthedoor.com, I think he is my new hero.


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Re: Preek Arguments

Postby twistedmentat » 12 Aug 2010 06:35

i saw this on dn this morning, has anyone else seen this? http://frankherbert.net/FAQ.html

I've heard a couple of these arguments before except for the one about the Leto/Jessica meeting scene. That dipshit arnoldo posted it as if to say,"any concerns you've had about the cannon inconsistentcies are clearly explained here, so no need for further discussion because this link comes from the ultimate authority".


frankherbert.net geez that pisses me off, hey if we slap his name on this, it makes it legitimate, right, right???? :evil:

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Re: Preek Arguments

Postby Redstar » 12 Aug 2010 06:54

Yueh's wife "Wandra"? :lol:

More than the answers (which are a given by now), the poor layout and design of the site always makes me laugh. I mean, really? The alternating alignment of the questions? Yellow text on a red background? They really needed a professional web designer. :lol: (And, nope, the new site design is by no means any better)

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Re: Preek Arguments

Postby merkin muffley » 12 Aug 2010 09:04

He was born on Kaitain, and he was "born" on Caladan. So desperate. So lame.
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Re: Preek Arguments

Postby SandChigger » 12 Aug 2010 10:05

http://www.frankherbert.net and http://www.brianpherbert.com are just alternate domains that resolve back to http://old.dunenovels.com. It's all the same thing, just different URLs. ;)

And arnoldo is an HLP-ass-sucking piece of shit. Best ignored.
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Re: Preek Arguments

Postby DuneFishUK » 12 Aug 2010 13:41

SandChigger wrote:http://www.frankherbert.net and http://www.brianpherbert.com are just alternate domains that resolve back to http://old.dunenovels.com. It's all the same thing, just different URLs. ;)

And arnoldo is an HLP-ass-sucking piece of shit. Best ignored.

I like how they haven't updated them. :)

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Re: Preek Arguments

Postby Nekhrun » 12 Aug 2010 19:04

SandChigger wrote:http://www.frankherbert.net and http://www.brianpherbert.com are just alternate domains that resolve back to http://old.dunenovels.com. It's all the same thing, just different URLs. ;)

Except one is for Phuzzy Pherbert! My favorite nickname for Bobo!
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Re: Preek Arguments

Postby SandChigger » 12 Aug 2010 19:13

:lol: That's actually how I remembered that alternate: Brian Pherbert! :P
I have heard of only one mistake that doesn’t have an explanation for a careful reader...with an open mind. (And, no, I’m not going to tell you what it is!) —KJA

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Re: Preek Arguments

Postby MrFlibble » 12 Aug 2010 20:36

Redstar wrote:Yueh's wife "Wandra"? :lol:

Now, really, this is offensive! Where's your famed Official Dune Concordance, Brian Pherbert?

SandChigger wrote::lol: That's actually how I remembered that alternate: Brian Pherbert! :P

Actually, I read that address as http://www.brainpherbert.net at first, and thought it was somebody's joke :lol:
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Postby SandChigger » 13 Aug 2010 05:56

It is. The world's. Brian P. Herbert is everybody's joke. :)

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(Btw, Wandra Butler was a character in the Legends books. At least Brian kept it in McDune. KJA can't keep Dune, McDune, Star Wars, the X Files, or anything else straight from the DVD he watched last night. :roll: )

(Hit the damned Quote button instead of Edit again. :roll: )
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Postby reverendmotherQ. » 03 Aug 2011 16:34

merkin muffley wrote:He was born on Kaitain, and he was "born" on Caladan. So desperate. So lame.

OH geesus I'm going to have to slap a small child because of reading that. I'm going to have to buy one of those protest shirts that say Paul was born on Caladan" right now.

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Re: Preek Arguments

Postby merkin muffley » 03 Aug 2011 21:45

reverendmotherQ. wrote:
merkin muffley wrote:He was born on Kaitain, and he was "born" on Caladan. So desperate. So lame.

OH geesus I'm going to have to slap a small child because of reading that. I'm going to have to buy one of those protest shirts that say Paul was born on Caladan" right now.


They're so lame.
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Postby Freakzilla » 03 Aug 2011 21:54

They wallow in lameness.
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Re: Preek Arguments

Postby Jodorowsky's Acolyte » 19 Nov 2012 15:40

reverendmotherQ. wrote:
merkin muffley wrote:He was born on Kaitain, and he was "born" on Caladan. So desperate. So lame.

OH geesus I'm going to have to slap a small child because of reading that. I'm going to have to buy one of those protest shirts that say Paul was born on Caladan" right now.


Interestingly, Iron Maiden was very persistant in its single lyric in their song, "To Tame a Land," that Paul was born on Caladan long before the prequels were published. The way the lead singer stresses that part from the song, "He is the Kwisatz Haderach! / He was born on Caladan! / and will take the Gom Jabar!" always makes me laugh, because he's being kind of Jacurutu before there was anything to be Jacurutu about. The "Paul was born on Caladan" t-shirts kind of compliment the song an indirect way.
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Re: Preek Arguments

Postby Apjak » 19 Nov 2012 15:51

Jodorowsky's Acolyte wrote:Interestingly, Iron Maiden was very persistant in its single lyric in their song, "To Tame a Land," that Paul was born on Caladan long before the prequels were published. The way the lead singer stresses that part from the song, "He is the Kwisatz Haderach! / He was born on Caladan! / and will take the Gom Jabar!" always makes me laugh, because he's being kind of Jacurutu before there was anything to be Jacurutu about. The "Paul was born on Caladan" t-shirts kind of compliment the song an indirect way.

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:lol:
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Re: Preek Arguments

Postby Jodorowsky's Acolyte » 19 Nov 2012 16:58

:lol: :lol: :lol:
Apjak, you've made me a very happy man. :D
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Re: Preek Arguments

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Jodorowsky's Acolyte wrote:Interestingly, Iron Maiden was very persistant in its single lyric in their song, "To Tame a Land," that Paul was born on Caladan long before the prequels were published.

I don't get your point here. No shit they did, because that's what Frank wrote.
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Re: Preek Arguments

Postby Jodorowsky's Acolyte » 19 Nov 2012 20:22

Nekhrun wrote:
Jodorowsky's Acolyte wrote:Interestingly, Iron Maiden was very persistant in its single lyric in their song, "To Tame a Land," that Paul was born on Caladan long before the prequels were published.

I don't get your point here. No shit they did, because that's what Frank wrote.


I was only stating matter of factly that Iron Maiden's song preceded the t-shirt slogan by decades. I know that they did the song when Herbert was writing: I just find it interesting anyway that Maiden was adamant about Paul being born in Caladan in such heavy metal fashion before Orthodox Herbertarians would eventually turn that important plot point from the original Dune into a protest slogan against the meddlings by KJA & BH in DUNE: HOUSE CORRINO.

I'm just happy that my weird way of expressing my thoughts has inspired a hilarious meme on Jacurutu. My silly words just meld so perfectly with the band picture. It's the first time I've inspired any kind of meme.
(Thanks again, Apjak). I don't care if it's meant to make fun of me. I love it anyway.
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Re: Preek Arguments

Postby Apjak » 20 Nov 2012 10:20

I don't make fun of people. It just stuck out to me, and I had to make it a reality.
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Re: Preek Arguments

Postby inhuien » 20 Nov 2012 12:10

The best Madien cover ever.

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Been trying to find and image of the back cover as memory tells there was some thing horrid happening to Margert Thatcher lookalike. Ah them were the day when it was OK to have the PM about to become a sex crime victim of your LP covers.
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