Serkanner wrote:... this is three strikes out. Who are your really?
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Serkanner wrote:... this is three strikes out. Who are your really?
lotek wrote:Serkanner wrote:... this is three strikes out. Who are your really?
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... this is three strikes out. Who are your really?
lukecash12 wrote: I'm no troll.
Serkanner wrote:lukecash12 wrote: I'm no troll.
In my book you are, stronthoofd ... I would have answered in Dutch but since it's against forum policy I have to reply in English. Now you can calmly drift of into the Internet scatterings because I don't give a fuck about your autism or your academic stature. You remain a small dicked insulting bastard and I will waste no more time on the likes of you.
lukecash12 wrote: I can certainly agree with all of you that the BG had a whole bunch of reasons to dislike Leto II, but the fact remains that they were hypocrites. However much of an abomination he was, they would have done the same. Leto II was the perfect expression of their ideology, that he was willing to do anything and outlast anything for the survival and propogation of humanity.
But unlike the BG, who take several members worth of lives to accomplish their goals, he took it on single handedly and thus their hatred of him stems from the sheer amount of power invested in a single person that such an entity implies. I think in many ways he was the antithesis to the BG because he sought to break the universe from its reoccurring restraints and political crutches that left it doomed to be predictable - which is what the BG hoped to keep alive because humanity's predictability is what made it possible to control them. So your statement seems to over generalize Leto's goals and robs them of any of the newness of meaning that he had in them versus the BG's aims.
SandRider wrote:I'd just like to step in here for a moment & second the
"do not give a fuck about your (insert 'disability' here)" sentiment ...
lukecash12 wrote:SandRider wrote:I'd just like to step in here for a moment & second the
"do not give a fuck about your (insert 'disability' here)" sentiment ...
And that's what you look like![]()
lukecash12 wrote:But unlike the BG, who take several members worth of lives to accomplish their goals, he took it on single handedly and thus their hatred of him stems from the sheer amount of power invested in a single person that such an entity implies. I think in many ways he was the antithesis to the BG because he sought to break the universe from its reoccurring restraints and political crutches that left it doomed to be predictable - which is what the BG hoped to keep alive because humanity's predictability is what made it possible to control them. So your statement seems to over generalize Leto's goals and robs them of any of the newness of meaning that he had in them versus the BG's aims.
Well, had the BG had prescience of the caliber that Leto II, you think they would have stood idly by so that humanity could become extinct?
lukecash12 wrote:But unlike the BG, who take several members worth of lives to accomplish their goals, he took it on single handedly and thus their hatred of him stems from the sheer amount of power invested in a single person that such an entity implies. I think in many ways he was the antithesis to the BG because he sought to break the universe from its reoccurring restraints and political crutches that left it doomed to be predictable - which is what the BG hoped to keep alive because humanity's predictability is what made it possible to control them. So your statement seems to over generalize Leto's goals and robs them of any of the newness of meaning that he had in them versus the BG's aims.
Well, had the BG had prescience of the caliber that Leto II, you think they would have stood idly by so that humanity could become extinct?
A Thing of Eternity wrote:lukecash12 wrote:But unlike the BG, who take several members worth of lives to accomplish their goals, he took it on single handedly and thus their hatred of him stems from the sheer amount of power invested in a single person that such an entity implies. I think in many ways he was the antithesis to the BG because he sought to break the universe from its reoccurring restraints and political crutches that left it doomed to be predictable - which is what the BG hoped to keep alive because humanity's predictability is what made it possible to control them. So your statement seems to over generalize Leto's goals and robs them of any of the newness of meaning that he had in them versus the BG's aims.
Well, had the BG had prescience of the caliber that Leto II, you think they would have stood idly by so that humanity could become extinct?
No - but could they have figured out the solution?
lukecash12 wrote:SandRider wrote:I'd just like to step in here for a moment & second the
"do not give a fuck about your (insert 'disability' here)" sentiment ...
And that's what you look like![]()
inhuien wrote:"WHY DID YOUR SISTERHOOD NOT BUILD THE GOLDEN PATH? YOU KNEW THE NECESSITY.
YOUR FAILURE CONDEMNED ME, THE GOD EMPEROR, TO MILLENNIA OF PERSONAL DESPAIR."
lotek wrote:inhuien wrote:"WHY DID YOUR SISTERHOOD NOT BUILD THE GOLDEN PATH? YOU KNEW THE NECESSITY.
YOUR FAILURE CONDEMNED ME, THE GOD EMPEROR, TO MILLENNIA OF PERSONAL DESPAIR."
Nice !
inhuien wrote:lukecash12 wrote:But unlike the BG, who take several members worth of lives to accomplish their goals, he took it on single handedly and thus their hatred of him stems from the sheer amount of power invested in a single person that such an entity implies. I think in many ways he was the antithesis to the BG because he sought to break the universe from its reoccurring restraints and political crutches that left it doomed to be predictable - which is what the BG hoped to keep alive because humanity's predictability is what made it possible to control them. So your statement seems to over generalize Leto's goals and robs them of any of the newness of meaning that he had in them versus the BG's aims.
Well, had the BG had prescience of the caliber that Leto II, you think they would have stood idly by so that humanity could become extinct?
Leto II wrote
"WHY DID YOUR SISTERHOOD NOT BUILD THE GOLDEN PATH? YOU KNEW THE NECESSITY.
YOUR FAILURE CONDEMNED ME, THE GOD EMPEROR, TO MILLENNIA OF PERSONAL DESPAIR."
A Thing of Eternity wrote:Freakzilla didn't draw the line, Leto II did.![]()
I think that's the thing though, while I don't necessarily think the BG understood the need for the Golden Path, or even really what it was, Leto II meant something by that message - either he believed that they knew they should have caused the Scattering, or something like it, or he meant that he believed they should have known (or did know subconsciously)that their own plans would not succeed and they should have thought more long term.
I'm loath to debate with Leto II.
Freakzilla wrote:Well, you know, this was the reason the were breeding for the KH, so he could see the big picture that they could only see less than half of.
A Thing of Eternity wrote:Freakzilla wrote:Well, you know, this was the reason the were breeding for the KH, so he could see the big picture that they could only see less than half of.
Why "less than half" rather than just half? I'm under the impression the BG did not know they were going to get a prescient out of the KH.