inhuien wrote:Freakzilla wrote:inhuien wrote:hmmm, so the Bene Tleilax Kwisatz Haderach pre-dated Paul (an assumption I know but a safe one). I must re-read these wonderful books, my recall was that this disclosure happen in CH:D.
Dune Messiah, Chapter 1Paul is about 30-y-o at this point so I think it would be very possibly to have been done in his time.
Paul age wasn't really the point I was thinking of, where my muse was taking was that it was 12ish years since he took the
Water of Life. Do you think the Bene Tleilax could have created and matured the correct specimen to be a successful Kwisatz Haderach in that timescale.
Leto II, Ghanima and Alia did it before birth, so I think genetics, not experience is the key.
I think it may have been mentioned in one of the latter books that the BT offered to make a KH for the BG, but they wanted to do it the "natural" way.
Which Kwisatz Haderach was first?
Again... the BT KH was a tool to defeat the BG KH. That would lead me to believe the BG KH came first. If the BG hadn't lost control of theirs, the BT wouldn't have needed one.