Sorceresses of Rossak

Image
    One of the two remaining Great Schools tasked with mentoring humanity

Moderators: ᴶᵛᵀᴬ, Omphalos, Freakzilla

User avatar
SandRider
Watermaster
Posts: 6163
Joined: 05 Oct 2008 16:14
Location: In the back of your mind. Always.
Contact:

Postby SandRider » 10 Nov 2008 21:33

dude, it hurt me several pages ago .....


BobaGodot wrote:if by "responding to tone" you mean that he's commenting on my tone in the argument rather than the content


That is the definition of "responding to tone" ......
................ I exist only to amuse myself ................
ImageImage

I personally feel that this message board, Jacurutu, is full of hateful folks who don't know
how to fully interact with people.
~ "Spice Grandson" (Bryon Merrit) 08 June 2008

User avatar
EsperandoAGodot
Posts: 186
Joined: 08 Nov 2008 21:03
Location: Brooklyn, NY and Lancaster, PA
Contact:

Postby EsperandoAGodot » 10 Nov 2008 21:49

moreh_yeladim wrote:
SandChigger wrote::shock:

Congratulations for repeating a Byron-level counter-argument. :roll:

Addressed and answered already in another thread (oddly enough, the Jessica of Dune one), just the other day in fact.

Yes, space-folding is in effect FTL travel (because you cross a distance faster than light itself could) but in that (in its final version in the later books) it does not (seem to) involve acceleration or other motion, I don't think of it as "FTL" as commonly used in the genre.

OK, so it's just hyperspace rather than FTL travel. How nerdy do we want to get over this?

Very nerdy. See, I don't think it's hyperspace, either, as hyperspace travel still involves piloting the ship there, and moving through hyperspace. If foldspace is truly "travelling without moving" and moving "in the blink of an eye," then, as SandChigger pointed out, it's not really "travelling" in any traditional sense of the word.

Basically, you're not moving faster than light, because you're not moving at all.
DUNE - Chronicles of the Imperium
A free-form, forum based RPG
http://boards.theforce.net/non_star_war ... 346/p1/?11
Launched and ready to fire.

User avatar
SandChigger
KJASF Ground Zero
Posts: 14490
Joined: 08 Feb 2008 22:29
Location: "Whatcha having, shoog? Hurry up and order now, I ain't got all day!"
Contact:

Postby SandChigger » 11 Nov 2008 00:16

Have to be careful not to phrase it "moving without moving", since that's a Lynch Dune creation. ;)
I have heard of only one mistake that doesn’t have an explanation for a careful reader...with an open mind. (And, no, I’m not going to tell you what it is!) —KJA

I don't like every writer's style; for instance, I have never been able to get through Ursula LeGuin, China Mieville, or Iain Banks, all of whom are critical darlings. —KJA

I...had written a bunch of Star Wars and X-Files books...that proved not just that I'm a hack, but that I could write in somebody else's universe... —KJA

User avatar
SandRider
Watermaster
Posts: 6163
Joined: 05 Oct 2008 16:14
Location: In the back of your mind. Always.
Contact:

Postby SandRider » 11 Nov 2008 00:29

see, I started to jump all over that, but just let it go.

Hey, I read on the internet that the wierding modules
in the new movie were going to be light sabers .....







{I never get tired of that !}
................ I exist only to amuse myself ................
ImageImage

I personally feel that this message board, Jacurutu, is full of hateful folks who don't know
how to fully interact with people.
~ "Spice Grandson" (Bryon Merrit) 08 June 2008

User avatar
EsperandoAGodot
Posts: 186
Joined: 08 Nov 2008 21:03
Location: Brooklyn, NY and Lancaster, PA
Contact:

Postby EsperandoAGodot » 11 Nov 2008 00:44

SandChigger wrote:Have to be careful not to phrase it "moving without moving", since that's a Lynch Dune creation. ;)

Ha. I'll try to remember that, though it is a rather concise way to explain it, no?

And lightsabers would probably set off the Holtzmann Shields, right? Big Explosion. CROSSOVER FIC!!!!!!!!!111one!

EDIT: Just to be sure, I was kidding...
Last edited by EsperandoAGodot on 11 Nov 2008 00:45, edited 1 time in total.
DUNE - Chronicles of the Imperium

A free-form, forum based RPG

http://boards.theforce.net/non_star_war ... 346/p1/?11

Launched and ready to fire.

User avatar
SandRider
Watermaster
Posts: 6163
Joined: 05 Oct 2008 16:14
Location: In the back of your mind. Always.
Contact:

Postby SandRider » 11 Nov 2008 00:45

Usul would not heed the Imperial Surgeons warning about smoking .... after the tracheotomy,
he would require an Ixian breathing device ....


ImageImage
................ I exist only to amuse myself ................
ImageImage

I personally feel that this message board, Jacurutu, is full of hateful folks who don't know
how to fully interact with people.
~ "Spice Grandson" (Bryon Merrit) 08 June 2008

User avatar
EsperandoAGodot
Posts: 186
Joined: 08 Nov 2008 21:03
Location: Brooklyn, NY and Lancaster, PA
Contact:

Postby EsperandoAGodot » 11 Nov 2008 00:51

I guess he must not have ever seen this then.

To be fair, though, he may have been seduced to smoking by this ad.
DUNE - Chronicles of the Imperium

A free-form, forum based RPG

http://boards.theforce.net/non_star_war ... 346/p1/?11

Launched and ready to fire.

User avatar
A Thing of Eternity
Posts: 6090
Joined: 08 Apr 2008 15:35
Location: Calgary Alberta

Postby A Thing of Eternity » 11 Nov 2008 14:57

moreh_yeladim wrote:
SandChigger wrote::shock:

Congratulations for repeating a Byron-level counter-argument. :roll:

Addressed and answered already in another thread (oddly enough, the Jessica of Dune one), just the other day in fact.

Yes, space-folding is in effect FTL travel (because you cross a distance faster than light itself could) but in that (in its final version in the later books) it does not (seem to) involve acceleration or other motion, I don't think of it as "FTL" as commonly used in the genre.

OK, so it's just hyperspace rather than FTL travel. How nerdy do we want to get over this?


VERY nerdy. It's what I do. :wink: And, agreeing with someone else here, I also wouldn't call this hyperspace, though that may not be far off, I'd compare it to wormholes.
Image


Return to “˱”