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Re: Other Memory

Postby Freakzilla » Mon Feb 08, 2010 12:33 pm

reverendmotherQ. wrote:Fraking telemarketer is harassing me


I give those calls to my youngest children.

Ask them for their home phone number and tell them you'll call them back around dinner time. :wink:
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Re: Other Memory

Postby reverendmotherQ. » Mon Feb 08, 2010 12:57 pm

Freakzilla wrote:
reverendmotherQ. wrote:Fraking telemarketer is harassing me


I give those calls to my youngest children.

Ask them for their home phone number and tell them you'll call them back around dinner time. :wink:

Damn it I should have thought of that.
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Re: Other Memory

Postby Omphalos » Mon Feb 08, 2010 2:43 pm

I always tell them whoever they are calling for died the day before, then I hang up, crying.
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Re: Other Memory

Postby Ampoliros » Mon Feb 08, 2010 2:48 pm

Omphalos wrote:I always tell them whoever they are calling for died the day before, then I hang up, crying.



And people call me evil...
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Re: Other Memory

Postby Omphalos » Mon Feb 08, 2010 2:49 pm

Ampoliros wrote:
Omphalos wrote:I always tell them whoever they are calling for died the day before, then I hang up, crying.



And people call me evil...


My wife thinks its evil too, but I notice she is suppressing giggles as she tells me that.
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Re: Other Memory

Postby reverendmotherQ. » Tue Feb 09, 2010 11:55 am

Explain to me how Serena Butler shows up in Sheanna's other memory?
Only when she is having a hallucination, NOT AN OTHER MEMORY. Jesus, were they drunk when they wrote this or so cold out recording on an ice berg they couldn't think properly? It just makes the whole genetic science aspect that makes the other memory concept seem real while reading the universe of Dune, as if its a possibility just locked away in one's blood, turn into nothing more than a parlor trick that randomly conjurs up whatever the hell KJA wants it to for the purposes of the story. A pretty lame story if you ask me, considering he had to corrupt the very concept of other memory to suit him rather than him adapting to give the greatest scifi ever written SOME sense of justice.
Another question, perhaps more of an idea. The Honored Matres as everyone here should know never have a definite origin in the original texts. They must have been a combination of Fishspeakers(is that hypothesis supported by FranK) that blended together with Bene Gesserit during the Scattering. I could see a Reverend Mother using the fishspeaker platform as plan in the execution of the Missionaria Protectivia to try to bring the panicked population out wandering the universe at random in a haphazard fashion, uniting them under religion to begin to reassemble some semblance of civilization, but the fact the Honored Matres seem to mirror the Bene Gesserit so much in their organization and yang version of the orange substance versus the yin of the spice, but to have completely lost all notion of other memory or even of it's possibility means that either the Bene Gesserit out in the scattering were over ran and out numbered by the Fishspeakers so that all that really happened was the early form of the Honored Matres just took what they wanted from the women in skill and ignored what they thought was unnecessary. Plus, the absence of spice essence probably is the main reason they never where able to achieve the advantage of other memory, thus they based every decision on whims in the fluctuations of power rather than any wizened judgement and the caution that other memory equips their alterego Sisterhood with. So I guess after the first generation of Bene Gesserit died during the Scattering, all they could do was teach and their Fishspeaker counterparts may have had a superstition about allowing themselves the sharing of memories from the "witches." So then the next generation of leaders find themselves alone in the field of advice and thus evolved into the opposite of the Sisterhood's deliberate methods of planning and just did what ever they felt was necessary to save themselves from the unknown and from one another.
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Re: Other Memory

Postby A Thing of Eternity » Tue Feb 09, 2010 12:47 pm

Paragraphs damnit! That hurt my brain!

But yes, now you are feeling the pain that we all felt. If it makes you feel any better, I think that writing-wise Hunters was their best work...
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Re: Other Memory

Postby Seraphan » Tue Feb 09, 2010 5:26 pm

A Thing of Eternity wrote:Paragraphs damnit! That hurt my brain!

But yes, now you are feeling the pain that we all felt. If it makes you feel any better, I think that writing-wise Hunters was their best work...

Could you link to her your review of Sandworms? I think it would help her.
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Re: Other Memory

Postby A Thing of Eternity » Tue Feb 09, 2010 5:34 pm

Seraphan wrote:
A Thing of Eternity wrote:Paragraphs damnit! That hurt my brain!

But yes, now you are feeling the pain that we all felt. If it makes you feel any better, I think that writing-wise Hunters was their best work...

Could you link to her your review of Sandworms? I think it would help her.


I'm no good at linking, but it can be easily found in the Prequels section of the forum.
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Re: Other Memory

Postby Seraphan » Tue Feb 09, 2010 6:32 pm

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Re: Other Memory

Postby SandChigger » Tue Feb 09, 2010 6:33 pm

"Linking?" Thang's voice betrayed his outrage even through the shield's filtering. "What has linking to do with it? You link when the necessity arises! Linking's a thing for piggy wienies and other sausages."

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Re: Other Memory

Postby A Thing of Eternity » Tue Feb 09, 2010 6:52 pm

:lol:


I should really edit that list down to just the highlights and just toss it in the mail to the Herberts and KJA.
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Re: Other Memory

Postby reverendmotherQ. » Tue Feb 09, 2010 10:32 pm

Seraphan wrote:
A Thing of Eternity wrote:Paragraphs damnit! That hurt my brain!

But yes, now you are feeling the pain that we all felt. If it makes you feel any better, I think that writing-wise Hunters was their best work...

Could you link to her your review of Sandworms? I think it would help her.

OH MY GOD! This is absolute abomination in the truest sense.
The only interesting original character that crawled out of the garbage of KJA's subhuman mind was norma in the whole machine, butlerian, whatever triology. And what does he do? Turn her from a rational thinking being who was mathematically genius to a boring god! I guessed already two thirds into Hunters that the Oracle was her(seriously, who does he think he's kidding). She was the reason I worked so hard to become better at math - I humoured myself that If I studied hard I could be guild navigator material(damn that there isn't any spice). She was like my math muse. Now she is just a cliche and a lame feminist version of "Oh loook at me! I control all of these once penis possessing mutants!"
FAIL.
Norma is dead, and now the whole interest in the series just died to.
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Re: Other Memory

Postby lotek » Wed Feb 10, 2010 4:54 am

reverendmotherQ. wrote:Norma is dead, and now the whole interest in the series just died to.


She did not die by accident, she was murdered!!

A quote about murder:
"Consider the matter dispassionately, Mr. Foster, and you will see that no offence is so heinous as unorthodoxy of behaviour. Murder kills only the individual-- and after all, what is an individual? ". . . ." We can make a new one with the greatest of ease-- as many as we like. Unorthodoxy threatens more than the life of a mere individual; it strikes at Society itself."
Aldous Leonard Huxley : English writer & critic
(1894 - 1963)

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you have taught me a valuable Life Lesson.
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Re: Other Memory

Postby reverendmotherQ. » Wed Feb 10, 2010 6:20 am

Huxley is amazing. If anyone should have "updated" Dune, he would have the credentials to do it.
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