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I'm going to start calling myself a "sane-ist", since "centerist" doesn't really describe me (I believe in a balance, but not so much a balance through moving towards center all the time, often I think the extremes of either side are right... and also often wrong...).
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A Thing of Eternity wrote:I'm going to start calling myself a "sane-ist", since "centerist" doesn't really describe me (I believe in a balance, but not so much a balance through moving towards center all the time, often I think the extremes of either side are right... and also often wrong...).
You're like a political Mobius strip. :)
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Nekhrun wrote:
Omphalos wrote:I tried to fix it, but Nekh is right. But look at what i did. That's the way.
This is the way:



Though I don't support the contents of the video (for no reason other than I didn't watch it yet). I tend towards Crysknife's view on these issues and I would describe myself as a Socialist.
Not a bad video, actually. By the end of it, seemed like Schiff was only ripping on their protest for being misrepresented by the media, which is silly of him. Hipster at 13:45 kind of nails it: The protest is as much a protest of Washington as it is of Wall St. Another good moment: right at the end when the dude asks for a show of hands of pro-capitalist protestors. "That's a lot of hands," he says.

Which basically sums up how I feel about it: reform, rather than revolution. Although if reform can't happen...
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This seems to sum it up for me:
As Berlin noted: "No man's activity is so completely private as never to obstruct the lives of others in any way. 'Freedom for the pike is death for the minnows'."
What all these pricks seem to forget is that they're only rich because of the education and labor of those they exploit. Do they think they'd have a workforce without public education? What about healthy enough to work for an entire career without the regulations that make certain we have clean air/water/food? They sure don't seem to avoid the resources of the commons.

No one is self-made...no one. They really do owe it to the workers to share the wealth.
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did these finnally fizzle out? havent heard any press on them in while, not that I really gave a crap anyhow?
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The media lost interest when it ran out of ugly images or a decent (invented) narrative. Peaceful protests are crap telly.
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Occupy Congress is on the 17th. I doubt the media will give it much coverage... the Golden Globes are tonight, and I'm sure Ricky will piss some celebrities off and that's so much more important.

http://www.occupyyourcongress.info/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Where's Ralph Steadman when you need him? The ugliness which has surrounded the Occupy Protests seems worthy of a Fear and Loathing treatment from HST's infamous ink-crazy sidekick.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNJYIsoNyZs

Either that, or Neil Young's awesome folksy whines could help redeem matters.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdiCJUysIT0
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Steadman's one crazy motherfucker .... and I don't use that term lightly ...
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I was a little underwhelmed by the #J17 protests at Congress, was quieter than expected with only a few thousand showing up. But the subsequent #J18 SOPA/PIPA protests & Supreme Court protests have been surprisingly impressive. I'm hoping this is simply the new standard: more engagement.

Also, I've heard lots of critics of OWS say that they should be rallying in Washington, not Wall St. They had a good point, but I'm hoping last week's events helped them understand OWS acknowledges this. Never mind the fact that Occupy K St & Occupy DC have been going strong since October. Anyway, lobbyists & the industries that hire them deserve criticism along with Congress, especially if narrow corporate interests always win.
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This was a protest:

"... the mystery of life isn't a problem to solve but a reality to experience."

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holy shit, I had that on vinyl .....
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SandRider wrote:holy shit, I had that on vinyl .....
I can listen to Gil for days in a row.
"... the mystery of life isn't a problem to solve but a reality to experience."

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Oh look! "Inside Job" full documentary about the 2008 financial collapse. And narrated by Matt Damon! Fun for everybody.

http://vimeo.com/23086688

WARNING: May make you an Occupier.
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speaking of, I gots to go see my Justice o'the Peace buddy tomorrow and explain to him
why I got shitfaced and Occupied a Willie Nelson concert last November, so if'n I ain't around
for a few weeks, figger I just told The Court to Fuck Theyselves, & is on The Inside, recruiting
the young thugs for the Next Revolution ....
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SandRider wrote:speaking of, I gots to go see my Justice o'the Peace buddy tomorrow and explain to him
why I got shitfaced and Occupied a Willie Nelson concert last November, so if'n I ain't around
for a few weeks, figger I just told The Court to Fuck Theyselves, & is on The Inside, recruiting
the young thugs for the Next Revolution ....
Oh noooo! Give 'em hell, Rider!
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Drunken Idaho wrote:Oh look! "Inside Job" full documentary about the 2008 financial collapse. And narrated by Matt Damon! Fun for everybody.

http://vimeo.com/23086688

WARNING: May make you an Occupier.
That was very very excellent - thanks for the linky :)

Was slightly surprising how well some of the traditional big bads (Soros and the IMF) come off in it, but that might be because they have more of an interest in shaping the bigger picture as opposed to covering their behinds at an operational level. But it was a quote at near the end that summed up what I was thinking all the way through:

"Why should a financial engineer be paid 4 times to a 100 times more than a real engineer?"

Difficult jobs should be rewarded, but fuck me, those people live in a weird little self-perpetuating bubble world!

Definitely recommended viewing :)
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I know this topic is not continuing at the moment, but I thought that this quote from GOG.com's editorial on ODDWORLD: ABE'S EXODDUS would be of some interest to the Occupy Protest debate. The Creative Director of Oddworld Inhabitants, Lorne Lanning, references a little bit to the political and economical state of things.

http://www.gog.com/en/news/editorial_od ... es_exoddus

The anti-industrial oppression point of view of ODDWORLD is also elaborated on in the first game's editorial.

http://www.gog.com/en/news/editorial_od ... _oddysee_1
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