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GamePlayer wrote:I'd settle for just one good woman.

GamePlayer wrote:I'd settle for just one good woman.

Rakis wrote:I already have one good woman, so i'll settle for that volcano beer thingy that Freak spoke...

SadisticCynic wrote:Edit: I suppose you could just shorten it to Cynic or whatever...

Freakzilla wrote:My first conversion! Please don't tell anyone I wasn't wearing full pirate regalia.

Freakzilla wrote:You have a Jewish and a Christian parent? Interesting...

GamePlayer wrote:If a given religion offers so little that one must indoctrinate children to sustain it, then that religion should cease to be followed.

Tleszer wrote:

SadisticCynic wrote:Edit: I suppose you could just shorten it to Cynic or whatever...

SadisticCynic wrote:First of all, the killing of Abraham's son was a test of Abraham's faith (and his son's incidentily) and God clearly did not mean for him to kill him as he provided the ram and stopped Abraham from killing his son. This event was also a foreshadowing of God's sacrifice of Jesus. Also elsewhere in the Bible God explicitly expresses his extreme disapproval of child sacrifice etc. Some knowledge of the full story is evidently required here.

Second, I assume you mean this Freak:

18 “In case a man happens to have a son who is stubborn and rebellious, he not listening to the voice of his father or the voice of his mother, and they have corrected him but he will not listen to them, 19 his father and his mother must also take hold of him and bring him out to the older men of his city and to the gate of his place, 20 and they must say to the older men of his city, ‘This son of ours is stubborn and rebellious; he is not listening to our voice, being a glutton and a drunkard.’ 21 Then all the men of his city must pelt him with stones, and he must die. So you must clear away what is bad from your midst, and all Israel will hear and indeed become afraid. - Deuteronomy 21: 18-21

In this case it would seem to make sense to me to punish rebellious children that were going this drastically astray. (Reminds me of many stupid young people actually).

In any case, this obviously is not followed exactly anymore as the Law no longer applies - Jesus replaced the Law with something better: principles. The idea of the Law was to instill values in people until the Messiah came, which people ignored, focusing on technicalities instead. Now the principles are:

Children, be obedient to YOUR parents in union with [the] Lord, for this is righteous: 2 “Honor your father and [your] mother”; which is the first command with a promise: 3 “That it may go well with you and you may endure a long time on the earth.” 4 And YOU, fathers, do not be irritating YOUR children, but go on bringing them up in the discipline and mental-regulating of Jehovah. - Ephesians 6: 1-4

CF: Proverbs 22:6

Phew! At least, thats what I think

A Thing of Eternity wrote:

GamePlayer wrote:If a given religion offers so little that one must indoctrinate children to sustain it, then that religion should cease to be followed.

Exactly, any religion that could survive the process of actually having it's young educated about the facts deserves to continue, if it cannot survive then it is a poison and should be stamped out.

SwordMaster wrote:east vs. west

Jesus vs. Buddha

Try to list the differences between these two

SadisticCynic wrote:

Tleszer wrote:

SadisticCynic wrote:Edit: I suppose you could just shorten it to Cynic or whatever...

Or how about we just call you SadCynic?

Sad as in pitiful or sad as in depressed?

Phaedrus wrote:

SwordMaster wrote:east vs. west

Jesus vs. Buddha

Try to list the differences between these two

Buddha: middle ground, focuses on ending personal suffering by ending personal desires.

Jesus: "Because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spew thee out of my mouth.” Lots of personal suffering for the good of others. Strict moral code involving complex system of punishments and rewards for various actions.

It's like the difference between black and white. And they're both wrong!

Phaedrus wrote:

A Thing of Eternity wrote:

GamePlayer wrote:If a given religion offers so little that one must indoctrinate children to sustain it, then that religion should cease to be followed.

Exactly, any religion that could survive the process of actually having it's young educated about the facts deserves to continue, if it cannot survive then it is a poison and should be stamped out.

So...all religions should be stamped out, since they're all worthless and false.

We're in agreement!

Phaedrus wrote:

A Thing of Eternity wrote:

GamePlayer wrote:If a given religion offers so little that one must indoctrinate children to sustain it, then that religion should cease to be followed.

Exactly, any religion that could survive the process of actually having it's young educated about the facts deserves to continue, if it cannot survive then it is a poison and should be stamped out.

So...all religions should be stamped out, since they're all worthless and false.

We're in agreement!

Make sure of all things; hold fast to what is fine. - 1 Thessalonians 5: 21

Beloved ones, do not believe every inspired expression, but test the inspired expressions to see whether they originate with God, because many false prophets have gone forth into the world. - 1 John 4: 1