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    Re: Gun Control

    Postby SandChigger » 25 Jul 2009 05:54

    Redstar wrote:...our studiers.


    We watched the tragedy unfold
    We did as we were told
    We bought and sold
    It was the greatest show on earth
    But then it was over
    We ohhed and aahed
    We drove our racing cars
    We ate our last few jars of caviar
    And somewhere out there in the stars
    A keen-eyed look-out
    Spied a flickering light
    Our last hurrah
    Our last hurrah
    And when they found our shadows
    Grouped 'round the TV sets
    They ran down every lead
    They repeated every test
    They checked out all the data on their lists
    And then, the alien anthropologists
    Admitted they were still perplexed
    But on eliminating every other reason
    For our sad demise
    They logged the only explanation left
    This species has amused itself to death
    No tears to cry, no feelings left
    This species has amused itself to death
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    Re: Gun Control

    Postby Freakzilla » 25 Jul 2009 07:56

    We just need a new frontier.
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    Re: Gun Control

    Postby SandChigger » 25 Jul 2009 14:33

    We HAVE one.

    And have had for the last forty fucking years.
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    Re: Gun Control

    Postby Freakzilla » 25 Jul 2009 14:42

    SandChigger wrote:We HAVE one.

    And have had for the last forty fucking years.


    A new place to shoot people.. why have we not tapped into this?
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    Re: Gun Control

    Postby SandChigger » 25 Jul 2009 18:46

    Laziness? Stupidity? Lack of vision?

    Same reasons we fuck anything else up. We're becoming a very KJA country. No wonder he's so popular! (Supposedly)
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    Re: Gun Control

    Postby GamePlayer » 25 Jul 2009 22:06

    SandChigger wrote:We're becoming a very KJA country.


    "Don't wanna be an Anderson idiot!" :lol: :laughing:
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    Re: Gun Control

    Postby SadisticCynic » 26 Jul 2009 07:54

    GamePlayer wrote:
    SandChigger wrote:We're becoming a very KJA country.


    "Don't wanna be an Anderson idiot!" :lol: :laughing:


    :lol: :lol:

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    Re: Gun Control

    Postby chanilover » 26 Jul 2009 15:54

    You whining American bitches don't know how good you have it.
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    Re: Gun Control

    Postby SandChigger » 26 Jul 2009 15:57

    That has always been true. ;)
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    Re: Gun Control

    Postby Freakzilla » 26 Jul 2009 17:08

    I do and think Green Day doesn't deserve to live here. :wink:
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    Re: Gun Control

    Postby GamePlayer » 26 Jul 2009 18:17

    Hey, bitchy brits and yokel yanks, don't interrupt me when bashing KJA! :lol:

    Here's one more for ya, SadisticCynic :)

    *sung to the tune of American Psycho by Treble Charger*

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    To be the next cash flow
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    Re: Gun Control

    Postby SandChigger » 26 Jul 2009 18:49

    :lol: I wonder if that would fit into a Tweet.... :think:


    (We may as well throw in the towel when we start talking about citizens not having a right to live in the country, simply because we don't like their political views, lifestyles, etc, etc, bad music, or silly names. :Adolf: )
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    Re: Gun Control

    Postby Freakzilla » 26 Jul 2009 19:10

    Having a right to something is not the same as deserving it.
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    Re: Gun Control

    Postby SandChigger » 26 Jul 2009 19:24

    Who decides who deserves and who doesn't?
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    Re: Gun Control

    Postby SadisticCynic » 26 Jul 2009 20:24

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    Re: Gun Control

    Postby SadisticCynic » 26 Jul 2009 20:35

    GamePlayer wrote:Hey, bitchy brits and yokel yanks, don't interrupt me when bashing KJA! :lol:

    Here's one more for ya, SadisticCynic :)

    *sung to the tune of American Psycho by Treble Charger*

    "And now I know how far you'd go
    To be the next cash flow
    Oh, Anderson’s a psycho
    Champ of mediocrity
    Respected author wannabe,
    Destined for obscurity"


    :laughing:


    Ha, nice. :) Had to listen to the song first though, unfortunately I had heard Green Day before.
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    Re: Gun Control

    Postby A Thing of Eternity » 26 Jul 2009 22:25

    Redstar wrote:
    Freakzilla wrote:
    Redstar wrote:
    Eyes High wrote:
    Redstar wrote:Haven't read the thread through and through, but I support taking guns from everyone but the government.


    Then in this my dear friend we shall have to agree to disagree. I think that would be a HUGE mistake. The people should have a right to defend themselves. And history has shown that governments do not always watch out for their people.

    I respect those who do not wish to own guns themselves, but I want to keep mine (well my husband's) just where they are.

    My reason is because I'm all for the taking of rights by the government.


    Care to expand on that? :crazy:

    I was actually talking about this to a friend via AIM the day before I commented in this thread, so here's the transcript because I'd rather not sound pretentious by formulating an argument:

    tsukinofairy (4:17:26 AM): why?
    RedstarAnims (4:17:37 AM): People only ever want more
    RedstarAnims (4:17:43 AM): They don't appreciate what they have
    RedstarAnims (4:17:48 AM): Make them fight for it
    RedstarAnims (4:17:53 AM): Revolution ever hundred years
    RedstarAnims (4:17:57 AM): every*
    RedstarAnims (4:18:27 AM): We're already getting a pretty stagnant society
    RedstarAnims (4:18:42 AM): Internet is closing down borders, uniting countries socially, if not politically
    RedstarAnims (4:18:55 AM): A little harder to go to war with China when you're WoW buddies with people over there
    RedstarAnims (4:19:54 AM): Humans thrive off adversity and better themselves because of it. Peace breeds sloth and indifference. Apathy is killing us all.
    RedstarAnims (4:20:13 AM): 50 years ago a black president would have been assassinated, followed by peace marches and revolution leading to social change.
    RedstarAnims (4:20:24 AM): Now the KKK wont get off their fat drunk asses to do anything about it
    RedstarAnims (4:20:37 AM): We think we've won, but really no one cares about anything anymore
    tsukinofairy (4:20:42 AM): is that why you go on about me being apathetic about things?
    tsukinofairy (4:20:47 AM): well not "go on" ..
    RedstarAnims (4:22:10 AM): I think war, starvation, death, rape... All of that is beautiful, because it helps foster art and makes us appreciate what we do have. We're losing what makes us human, not because we're fighting for it, but because we simply don't care enough to make the changes... "Should I go to war? Nah... I don't care what they do over there." Peace through apathy breeds stagnation.
    tsukinofairy (4:23:03 AM): well i do see your point



    Are you a teenager? Seriously, no offense meant, but you sound just like me in junior high. Joy from shock value statements kinda thing.
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    Re: Gun Control

    Postby GamePlayer » 26 Jul 2009 22:37

    SandChigger wrote::lol: I wonder if that would fit into a Tweet.... :think:

    (We may as well throw in the towel when we start talking about citizens not having a right to live in the country, simply because we don't like their political views, lifestyles, etc, etc, bad music, or silly names. :Adolf: )


    Definitely worth a try :)

    As for diversity, yeah, that's kinda the whole point of a "free" society. Course, since we've dropped nearly all attempts at a free society (sans pretense), might as well start culling the herd :)

    SadisticCynic wrote:
    GamePlayer wrote:Hey, bitchy brits and yokel yanks, don't interrupt me when bashing KJA! :lol:

    Here's one more for ya, SadisticCynic :)

    *sung to the tune of American Psycho by Treble Charger*

    "And now I know how far you'd go
    To be the next cash flow
    Oh, Anderson’s a psycho
    Champ of mediocrity
    Respected author wannabe,
    Destined for obscurity"


    :laughing:


    Ha, nice. :) Had to listen to the song first though, unfortunately I had heard Green Day before.


    Yeah, that's why I provided the link. Treble Charger were little more than one hit wonders, so a refresher would be in order. The tune is so much fun it's stuck with me for all these years :)
    I actually like Green Day. Not a huge fan, but "Dookie" was a fun album. Of course, "American Idiot" was their "Californication" so to speak, a good band that had been around for years, but put out an album that blasted them into super stardom. Kinda weird how some bands work like that.
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    Re: Gun Control

    Postby Freakzilla » 27 Jul 2009 07:56

    SandChigger wrote:Who decides who deserves and who doesn't?


    It's not something which needs to be decided, it's just an opinion.
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    Re: Gun Control

    Postby Redstar » 27 Jul 2009 09:33

    A Thing of Eternity wrote:
    Redstar wrote:
    Freakzilla wrote:
    Redstar wrote:
    Eyes High wrote:
    Redstar wrote:Haven't read the thread through and through, but I support taking guns from everyone but the government.


    Then in this my dear friend we shall have to agree to disagree. I think that would be a HUGE mistake. The people should have a right to defend themselves. And history has shown that governments do not always watch out for their people.

    I respect those who do not wish to own guns themselves, but I want to keep mine (well my husband's) just where they are.

    My reason is because I'm all for the taking of rights by the government.


    Care to expand on that? :crazy:

    I was actually talking about this to a friend via AIM the day before I commented in this thread, so here's the transcript because I'd rather not sound pretentious by formulating an argument:

    tsukinofairy (4:17:26 AM): why?
    RedstarAnims (4:17:37 AM): People only ever want more
    RedstarAnims (4:17:43 AM): They don't appreciate what they have
    RedstarAnims (4:17:48 AM): Make them fight for it
    RedstarAnims (4:17:53 AM): Revolution ever hundred years
    RedstarAnims (4:17:57 AM): every*
    RedstarAnims (4:18:27 AM): We're already getting a pretty stagnant society
    RedstarAnims (4:18:42 AM): Internet is closing down borders, uniting countries socially, if not politically
    RedstarAnims (4:18:55 AM): A little harder to go to war with China when you're WoW buddies with people over there
    RedstarAnims (4:19:54 AM): Humans thrive off adversity and better themselves because of it. Peace breeds sloth and indifference. Apathy is killing us all.
    RedstarAnims (4:20:13 AM): 50 years ago a black president would have been assassinated, followed by peace marches and revolution leading to social change.
    RedstarAnims (4:20:24 AM): Now the KKK wont get off their fat drunk asses to do anything about it
    RedstarAnims (4:20:37 AM): We think we've won, but really no one cares about anything anymore
    tsukinofairy (4:20:42 AM): is that why you go on about me being apathetic about things?
    tsukinofairy (4:20:47 AM): well not "go on" ..
    RedstarAnims (4:22:10 AM): I think war, starvation, death, rape... All of that is beautiful, because it helps foster art and makes us appreciate what we do have. We're losing what makes us human, not because we're fighting for it, but because we simply don't care enough to make the changes... "Should I go to war? Nah... I don't care what they do over there." Peace through apathy breeds stagnation.
    tsukinofairy (4:23:03 AM): well i do see your point



    Are you a teenager? Seriously, no offense meant, but you sound just like me in junior high. Joy from shock value statements kinda thing.

    I've been taking guesses on that for awhile now. Feel free to cast your vote.

    (Here's a hint: I'm currently taking the rather sparse Pokemon mythos and translating it into an Egyptian/Judeo-Christian equivalent, with Mew, Ho-Oh, and Mewtwo forming a trinity of Mother, Father, and Child and Unown as the "Word"... But do not be deceived! I'm using the "trinity" theme not on that of the Christian model, but on the common misbelief that there is a similar concept in the Egyptian pantheon)
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    Re: Gun Control

    Postby A Thing of Eternity » 27 Jul 2009 11:10

    Redstar wrote:
    A Thing of Eternity wrote:
    Redstar wrote:
    Freakzilla wrote:
    Redstar wrote:
    Eyes High wrote:
    Redstar wrote:Haven't read the thread through and through, but I support taking guns from everyone but the government.


    Then in this my dear friend we shall have to agree to disagree. I think that would be a HUGE mistake. The people should have a right to defend themselves. And history has shown that governments do not always watch out for their people.

    I respect those who do not wish to own guns themselves, but I want to keep mine (well my husband's) just where they are.

    My reason is because I'm all for the taking of rights by the government.


    Care to expand on that? :crazy:

    I was actually talking about this to a friend via AIM the day before I commented in this thread, so here's the transcript because I'd rather not sound pretentious by formulating an argument:

    tsukinofairy (4:17:26 AM): why?
    RedstarAnims (4:17:37 AM): People only ever want more
    RedstarAnims (4:17:43 AM): They don't appreciate what they have
    RedstarAnims (4:17:48 AM): Make them fight for it
    RedstarAnims (4:17:53 AM): Revolution ever hundred years
    RedstarAnims (4:17:57 AM): every*
    RedstarAnims (4:18:27 AM): We're already getting a pretty stagnant society
    RedstarAnims (4:18:42 AM): Internet is closing down borders, uniting countries socially, if not politically
    RedstarAnims (4:18:55 AM): A little harder to go to war with China when you're WoW buddies with people over there
    RedstarAnims (4:19:54 AM): Humans thrive off adversity and better themselves because of it. Peace breeds sloth and indifference. Apathy is killing us all.
    RedstarAnims (4:20:13 AM): 50 years ago a black president would have been assassinated, followed by peace marches and revolution leading to social change.
    RedstarAnims (4:20:24 AM): Now the KKK wont get off their fat drunk asses to do anything about it
    RedstarAnims (4:20:37 AM): We think we've won, but really no one cares about anything anymore
    tsukinofairy (4:20:42 AM): is that why you go on about me being apathetic about things?
    tsukinofairy (4:20:47 AM): well not "go on" ..
    RedstarAnims (4:22:10 AM): I think war, starvation, death, rape... All of that is beautiful, because it helps foster art and makes us appreciate what we do have. We're losing what makes us human, not because we're fighting for it, but because we simply don't care enough to make the changes... "Should I go to war? Nah... I don't care what they do over there." Peace through apathy breeds stagnation.
    tsukinofairy (4:23:03 AM): well i do see your point



    Are you a teenager? Seriously, no offense meant, but you sound just like me in junior high. Joy from shock value statements kinda thing.

    I've been taking guesses on that for awhile now. Feel free to cast your vote.

    (Here's a hint: I'm currently taking the rather sparse Pokemon mythos and translating it into an Egyptian/Judeo-Christian equivalent, with Mew, Ho-Oh, and Mewtwo forming a trinity of Mother, Father, and Child and Unown as the "Word"... But do not be deceived! I'm using the "trinity" theme not on that of the Christian model, but on the common misbelief that there is a similar concept in the Egyptian pantheon)


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    Re: Gun Control

    Postby Hunchback Jack » 17 Aug 2009 23:06

    Freakzilla wrote:Having a right to something is not the same as deserving it.


    Well, maybe I'm quibbling about semantics, but I'd have thought that if something is a right, you dont *need* to deserve it.

    If you have to earn it, it's a privilege.

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    Re: Gun Control

    Postby Omphalos » 17 Aug 2009 23:25

    Freakzilla wrote:Having a right to something is not the same as deserving it.


    Unless its a fundamental right. Then everyone deserves it.
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    Re: Gun Control

    Postby Leto » 18 Aug 2009 07:16

    Hunchback Jack wrote:
    Freakzilla wrote:Having a right to something is not the same as deserving it.


    If you have to earn it, it's a privilege.


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    Re: Gun Control

    Postby A Thing of Eternity » 18 Aug 2009 11:01

    Holy semantics batman.
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