Baraka Bryan wrote:
A Thing of Eternity wrote:The vast vast majority of vegitarians and vegans don't ever try to force their opinions onto others, though they will explain their reasons to others calmly (who doesn't try to influence those around them to fit their personal morals?). The crazy ones you see are the extremist minority, like any group has.
Quite a few of them (my girlfriend included) acually do not think it's morally wrong to eat animals and will point to the food chain - they have a problem with the way we treat those animals (pretty damned horrible in many cases) while they are alive, not that we kill them and eat them. Dispite eating meat I actually agree with her 100%, her morals are correct, we should treat the animals reasonably before eating them.
it's always the few fanatics that give a group a bad name. I think as long as we're growing, caring for and killing animals humanely, there's nothing wrong with it. unfortunately, too many producers don't treat animals properly.
I agree totally, (and so does my girlfriend - the only
change she ever asked me to make was to stop eating KFC because the way they raise their chickens is so far over the line of morality it's unbelievable) I've started making an effort to buy free range eggs (also taste better and are better for you) and SPCA aproved cheese, I haven't figured out a system for beef yet, very few suppliers lable "free range" because they don't want you thinking about the other option: factory farm. Free range chicken also tastes much better but I rarely buy chicken at all. I'm also learning to watch out for farmed salmon and buy wild instead, not that I care about the fish's living conditions, but the salmon farms which are placed near inlets of breeding streams are causing desease amonst the wild population that might wipe them out along the west coast.
It is more expensive though, but that's easily corrected by just eating slightly less animal products (which we should be doing anyways for our health and for the environment). I have a long way to go though, I doubt that more than a fifth or a quarter of the animal product I eat so far is raised responsibly.
Morality aside even, I like knowing that I'm closer to fully conscious of one more aspect of my life, I really think most people (myself included sometimes) never truely comprehend their surroundings and just sleepwalk through life accepting most of whatever they're told.
A Thing of Eternity wrote:Despite eating meat I actually agree with her 100%, her morals are correct, we should treat the animals reasonably before eating them.
I think it'd be cool if we started massaging our cattle and played classical music for them and fed them beer.
Ditch the music and you just described Kobe IIRC.