You can't even put off straying into useless, demeaning attacks in this thread- of all threads.... created to try to distance the group from such behavior- look at the last few posts- especially the last one- 'WHAT THE FUCK DOES THAT SHIT HAVE TO DO WITH ANYTHING DEALING WITH FRANK HERBERT?'
It's a pathetic obsession, give it up, move on, and leave the two clowns behind. Just stop it. Thermodorian Reaction- move the fuck away from this trend, and return to Frank's world. There is absolutely nothing 'Orthodox' in this kind of hating orthodoxy- orthodoxy seeks to preserve and maintain- the haters have completely switched camps and hardly a single thread on this site it seems can go long without someone killing the momentum and bitching and complaining about the new books- there will ALWAYS be new books- by KJA and BH, and by countless others..... many will be nice, most will suck- chances are including any rewrite this lot makes- it's just the way it is, good works are rare, good authors are rarer..... but we all like to think we can write and think, because we're all impressed and fickled with our own consciousness, insights, and bias.
On a forum pretending to Orthodoxy- they have next to NO reason to appear in any discussion- without regard to whatever new books they are hatching or scheming- they are not Dune- they are not Frank- it has nothing to do with Frank Herbert....... this site would be the equivalent of visiting a orthodox Jewish synagogue, and hearing every other word out of their mouth how shit headed the newest branches of Protestantism or Islam are..... that shit, though it shares a similar origin in history and in culture- HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THEM, NOR SHOULD IT BE THE DEFINING MARK OF THEIR IDENTITIES!
Of all the threads, this one- you can't even break free of the slavery to this cultic religion of worshiping KJA. I don't fucking care about him, but I am getting dead tired of the arguments. You know what Frank's legacy is? His fucking books.... not any micro-culture being engineered here. There is no reason to carry on 'the good fight'- critics in the future are still going to be able to read, and they are going to note these books as being worthless shit- it's not like the species is going to collectively turn gullible in the next 40 years to that extent. Batman and Robin has a monopoly on the works for now- so be it.... it's not forever, and they haven't produced anything the jumps out and grabs people's imagination- and if somehow do manage to produce just such a work- more power to them- what's it to the Frank fans? Those two have absolutely NOTHING to do with a site claiming to be orthodox, and anyone pretending to such a title needs to just drop the twisted act, and grow up. Ignore the damn books..... they are poorly constructed physically, and will decay.... they are a molehill in the depths of time.... if Dune is to survive, it must survive on it's own merits, it's own discussions, and not from addictive, pathetic antagonisms. Nothing can be more damaging or pathetic than to collectively continue on this way.... there will always be bad books inspired by Dune out there- it will only multiply and diversify over time..... get over it now, and move on.
A new day is dawning, and Frank's image can be seen in it's silver lining, let's all leave this useless behavior behind, and finally push foreward to it. If you can't do it, then accept the you are not, nor ever can be Orthodox (fuck- in all honesty, it's impossible for a fan of the series to ever do that- Frank wasn't big on orthodoxy himself), accept your new title of Hater Orthopraxy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orthopraxy
, and change the name of this site.... there is no reason why Frank Herbert fans should be forced to read or deal with this crap- it's disgusting, and it's killing discussion. This is at this moment, still very much, the Dune Hater website. Let this sink in before you make a knee-jerk barfing shitstorm, think about it, and ask yourself if you want to spend the REST OF YOUR LIFE crying about the new books? Don't you have higher aspirations? You know the books aren't going to disappear overnight.... move on, let them die, and seize the day.