I just wanted to tell people here about a new short film in production right now, adapted faithfully from the short story, Cease Fire -
As this is a student project, we have a very modest wordpress site up at the moment, which has a teaser and various information about the project itself - principal photography will be finished in January, and we're aiming to have all post-production finished by May.
Critique on the wordpress and the teaser are welcome - thanks for checking it out!
Frank Herbert's Cease Fire - now becoming a short film
Posted: 16 Dec 2010 23:17
by Cease_Fire_2011
EDIT:
Not sure how many questions it will answer, but I put up a new post on the wordpress site regarding how this all worked out, for anyone who may be interested:
Edit: Never mind the earlier versions of my comment. I see you have "Text from 'Cease Fire' used by permission of Herbert Properties, LLC" on your blog.
So... what's it like being in bed with the Devil?
Re: Frank Herbert's Cease Fire - short film
Posted: 17 Dec 2010 01:14
by SandChigger
Yeah, KJAland. And they've obviously received the blessing of the Herbert Parasites.
So why is this film OK but the Spanish Dune film wasn't? What's the difference between a fan production and a student project, in the minds of The Milkers?
I for one would like to know a little bit more about the behind-the-scenes before considering this anything but spam.
Re: Frank Herbert's Cease Fire - short film
Posted: 17 Dec 2010 02:43
by Omphalos
The HLP obviously had an attorney who told them that intellectual property cannot be protected in the future unless you move to protect it when someone uses it without permission. Technically they are right, but still, literary estates should treat fans with respect.
With this one I would not be surprised if some money changed hands. The HLP probably thought that they would never do anything with this little story, so why not sell the student the rights? With Dune, it's a different story altogether. No amount of money would be worth it. But even if they did pay for the rights; spam? I personally am grokking a student film vibe here. I wish this guy luck.
Re: Frank Herbert's Cease Fire - now becoming a short film
Posted: 17 Dec 2010 02:45
by Omphalos
No quarter, eh?
Re: Frank Herbert's Cease Fire - now becoming a short film
Posted: 17 Dec 2010 03:58
by merkin muffley
Paid for the rights? For a student film? Really? Why?
Re: Frank Herbert's Cease Fire - now becoming a short film
Posted: 17 Dec 2010 05:24
by Serkanner
Every cent that goes to the HLP is blood-money
Re: Frank Herbert's Cease Fire - short film
Posted: 17 Dec 2010 08:04
by SandRider
*I'm assuming Jacob is posting all the promo material*
Jacob, in a YouTube Comment wrote:
Only one more week to check this out, then it comes down - tell your friends about it while it's still up!
so I snatched it w/ freecorder4, just in case ...
(that's the "packrat" or "hoarder" in me ... but fuck, live thru the Depression, and you learn to hang on to everything ....)
on the blahg, there's this in the sidebar & @ the bottom:
Text from "Cease Fire" used by permission of Herbert Properties, LLC.
and the blahg entry from yesterday:
Big day!
So, today has been an eventful day, to say the least…the contract that states that we are approved to go ahead with this project came through, which means that this project is completely legitimate, as opposed to the “almost but not quite” legitimate it was just before. This opens a lot of doors for this project, and gives us as filmmakers a chance to really reach a huge audience.
As far as actual mail goes, I received my WGA certificate for registering Frank Herbert’s Cease Fire some months ago, and also received the official permit contract from Denver Water regarding Dillon Reservoir, which is going to be a key location in this film.
Really, the contract showing up has me completely rejuvenated, even after the draining activities of the last three weeks.
Thanks to all of you for your support, and keep an eye on this site…
I have a comment "awaiting moderation":
I, the SandRider wrote:
jacob, thanks for dropping by the sietch
and leaving us the links for your project ...
I'm cautiously optimistic; I certainly approve
of your source material ...
the "contract" that you mention in this post,
is that a contract with the HLP ? I'd like to
hear about your dealings with them, I'm
assuming one of the lawyers, and not Brian;
we'd be interested in hearing the details ...
you are welcome to post about it in the thread
you started @jacurutu, or, if you do not wish
to make your comments that public, please send
one of us an email or PM ... we have a "Cone
of Silence" set up for just such a thing ...
and somebody (maybe the DuneFish ?) should drop by and tell him to lose the cheesy, dated "SciFi" fonts ...
or, if you're reading this, Jacob, drop the cheesy, dated "SciFi" fonts ....
wait & watch, I guess ...
Re: Frank Herbert's Cease Fire - now becoming a short film
Posted: 17 Dec 2010 08:22
by SandRider
goddamnit, now I been chewing on morning glory seeds all night, but WTF?
are there two goddamn threads on this ?
Re: Frank Herbert's Cease Fire - short film
Posted: 17 Dec 2010 09:18
by Lundse
Cease_Fire_2011 wrote:Hello!
I just wanted to tell people here about a new short film in production right now, adapted faithfully from the short story, Cease Fire
Good luck!
I think it is wonderful that people are looking into the shorter works of Frank Herbert - I am looking forward to see if you can pull it off and handle the rather straightforward plot and theme with some of the original's elegance. Again, best of luck and do post again when it is done!
With regards to the HLP, deals, etc. then I do agree that they have long lost their ethical claim to speak for mr. Herbert or his work - but as long as they have the legal claim, I guess nothing can be done about it. That no one should ever attempt to adapt any work of Frank's would just be too big a cost to pay, in order to keep money out of their hands. I hope you are free from any restraints and can use the book as you wish - it will be interesting to see!
Re: Frank Herbert's Cease Fire - now becoming a short film
Posted: 17 Dec 2010 09:27
by Freakzilla
SandRider wrote:goddamnit, now I been chewing on morning glory seeds all night, but WTF?
are there two goddamn threads on this ?
I thought maybe it was just me...
Re: Frank Herbert's Cease Fire - now becoming a short film
Posted: 17 Dec 2010 09:28
by Freakzilla
There can be only one.
Re: Frank Herbert's Cease Fire - now becoming a short film
Posted: 17 Dec 2010 09:49
by merkin muffley
It would be total insanity for someone to sue a student film, but I guess I wouldn't put anything past the HLP. It seems like this is might be a little bit more than just a student project, intended for festivals, I guess? Don't forget to try to make the actual film itself good. too.
Re: Frank Herbert's Cease Fire - now becoming a short film
Posted: 17 Dec 2010 12:17
by SandChigger
Had a look at their Twatter page to see if there was more information (like, what contracts are involved?) and they're following both TheKJA and DuneNovels. If they're just paying lip-service to get their project done, that's one thing...
If they're Friends of Kevin & BoBo... Well, you don't get in bed with those kafir fucks and come out right again. Ever.
Re: Frank Herbert's Cease Fire - now becoming a short film
Posted: 17 Dec 2010 13:17
by Omphalos
merkin muffley wrote:Paid for the rights? For a student film? Really? Why?
I was just wool gathering. I don't think that happens much, but knowing the HLP...
Re: Frank Herbert's Cease Fire - now becoming a short film
Posted: 17 Dec 2010 13:36
by TheDukester
Serkanner wrote:Every cent that goes to the HLP is blood-money
10,000 percent agreement.
I make no exceptions to the following rule: never give a penny to the Herbert Living Parasites. EVER.
I'll go so far as to condone stealing. And I'm a law-and-order type of guy.
Re: Frank Herbert's Cease Fire - now becoming a short film
Posted: 17 Dec 2010 14:24
by SandRider
awww jeez, & now you're merging ...?
I gotta get to sleep, but I don't think I'll be able to ... been stuck in the BigChair falling into the Stellarium program for ... what ?
ten hours, maybe ? this thing's a trip and the new update has compass point ring - so I've already jumped the thing to next
tuesday and got bearings for the solstice and went out and piled some new marker rocks in the meadow ... Imma take the tractor
and dig up some big-ass limestone boulders the size of Volkswagens and build a mesoamerican monument - fuck these little poles
sticking in the ground ... and Imma make an anasazi sun dagger ...
and if you haven't seen this thing, get it now .... {Stellarium, I mean ... it's an open-source free download ... you wanna ansazi sundagger, you'll need a tractor...}
Re: Frank Herbert's Cease Fire - now becoming a short film
Posted: 17 Dec 2010 14:50
by Freakzilla
SandRider wrote:awww jeez, & now you're merging ...?
Do you think we needed two topics on this?
SandRider wrote:I gotta get to sleep, but I don't think I'll be able to ... been stuck in the BigChair falling into the Stellarium program for ... what ?
ten hours, maybe ? this thing's a trip and the new update has compass point ring - so I've already jumped the thing to next
tuesday and got bearings for the solstice and went out and piled some new marker rocks in the meadow ... Imma take the tractor
and dig up some big-ass limestone boulders the size of Volkswagens and build a mesoamerican monument - fuck these little poles
sticking in the ground ... and Imma make an anasazi sun dagger ...
and if you haven't seen this thing, get it now .... {Stellarium, I mean ... it's an open-source free download ... you wanna ansazi sundagger, you'll need a tractor...}
My six-year-old told me what the winter soltice was yesterday, I was impressed.
Re: Frank Herbert's Cease Fire - now becoming a short film
Posted: 17 Dec 2010 21:12
by SandChigger
(I suppose there's no Mac version of that software, right? )
Well, they were back through about five hours ago or so but didn't respond or comment further.
I personally would prefer that Jacurutu NOT be used as a billboard for easy drop-by advertising, no matter what the subject is. I mean, if they're not going to even try to interact, the only difference between them and the Viagra & farmporn-site spammers is that they're pushing something somewhat "relevant to our interests". (Well, OK, I'm speaking for myself with regard to the Viagra. )
FWIW.
(They haven't hit FED2k yet, it appears.)
Re: Frank Herbert's Cease Fire - now becoming a short film
Posted: 17 Dec 2010 21:16
by Freakzilla
I'm not sure if my heart could handle Viagra.
Re: Frank Herbert's Cease Fire - now becoming a short film
Posted: 17 Dec 2010 21:35
by lotek
they're jews, peter !
I can see your anus !
(rule number one: don't post when coming back mashed from your mates !)
(rule number two: ignore rule number one when you're mashed)
ps;
i'm back home in France for a couple of weeks and it feels good(and it's raining melted snow)
Re: Frank Herbert's Cease Fire - now becoming a short film
Posted: 17 Dec 2010 21:36
by Freakzilla
Just go with it, man.
Re: Frank Herbert's Cease Fire - now becoming a short film
Posted: 17 Dec 2010 22:09
by SandChigger
Freakzilla wrote:I'm not sure if my heart could handle Viagra.
I have yet to have to worry about it.
Speaking of film-stuff and FED2k: Harry Canyon has finally shown up. And guess what?! He's playing his greatest hits over there, too.
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