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EsperandoAGodot wrote:Product placement would be important if it was a public appearance and not sandwalking. For the sake of making my heard hurt less, is Paul at least off to go build with a bunch of powerful offworld contractors, rather than natives, pilgrims, and Fremen?

SandChigger wrote:

EsperandoAGodot wrote:Product placement would be important if it was a public appearance and not sandwalking. For the sake of making my heard hurt less, is Paul at least off to go build with a bunch of powerful offworld contractors, rather than natives, pilgrims, and Fremen?

And that's the problem: it's supposed to be a very private moment for the family, building a cairn for the skull and a few bones of Duke Leto.

Which they have...and then Korba and a bunch of construction workers fly in with tons of stone and build a pyramid over the cairn. All very cinematic (with unlimited special effects!)...I can almost see it now.

EsperandoAGodot wrote:

SandChigger wrote:

EsperandoAGodot wrote:Product placement would be important if it was a public appearance and not sandwalking. For the sake of making my heard hurt less, is Paul at least off to go build with a bunch of powerful offworld contractors, rather than natives, pilgrims, and Fremen?

And that's the problem: it's supposed to be a very private moment for the family, building a cairn for the skull and a few bones of Duke Leto.

Which they have...and then Korba and a bunch of construction workers fly in with tons of stone and build a pyramid over the cairn. All very cinematic (with unlimited special effects!)...I can almost see it now.

The thing is...

...and I'm going out on a limb here...

...I can see this scene working if it were written well. Done economically, it could probably handle pretty well the themes in Dune Messiah.

Of course, it's probably not written well, and Dune Messiah already dealt with those themes.

Ampoliros wrote:The stillsuit discrepancy was a blundering and idiotic attempt at a KJA-tailored 'Gotcha' move. While he says the stillsuits are superior, he kinda sorta takes it back when he has Paul think, no they aren't better.

It's my call that this was a fairly obvious attempt to bait the OH community into a rabid-attack-dog stance.

Unfortunately he failed in his attempt to rile us with cheap tricks. It was his shit writing and totally uncaring attitude toward Dune that riled us.

Freakzilla wrote:The off-world stillsuit scene doesn't make foam at the mouth. I can easily imagine that a better stillsuit could be made somewhere else. I imagine it would take an order from Paul to get Fremen to wear them.

What bothers me is that they have no respect for the chronological order of things in FH's Duniverse. Everything has to come first in their books.

Serkanner wrote:

Freakzilla wrote:The off-world stillsuit scene doesn't make foam at the mouth. I can easily imagine that a better stillsuit could be made somewhere else. I imagine it would take an order from Paul to get Fremen to wear them.

What bothers me is that they have no respect for the chronological order of things in FH's Duniverse. Everything has to come first in their books.

I hope that is not the only reason. Me just hates every single word these two hacks have published. I am a hater.

Sole Man wrote:Hurm...Maybe its all part in grand scheme? I think Ampoliros could be right...could he's trying to get us angry, make us back him into a corner.

But will a weasel do when frightened into a cornor?

And if that is his plan, then we've played right into it.

SandChigger wrote:I think the attitude is more "Look what I can do! And you can't stop me! There are plenty of stooges out there who will eat this shit up; you know it and I know it, so like it or lump it! Ha ha ha!"


But really, when I think about it, I really hope that Kevin does believe himself to be a good writer, and that he honestly thinks this shit is his best work.

I prefer the image of him as a total fool.

SandChigger wrote:

Some shitty hack wrote: On their trek, Paul and his three companions wore new stillsuits covered by mottled cloaks to camouflage them in the desert. Though the garments looked well worn, they were actually finer than any Paul had used when he'd lived as a fugitive among the Fremen. Their makers claimed that these durable offworld imports were superior to the simpler versions that had traditionally been made in hidden sietches.The manufacturers mean well, he thought. They do it to show their support for me, without realizing the implied criticism in their "improvements."

We kicked this one around in one of the PoD threads back in September, before you joined. Anything not manufactured in the sietches was inferior and the Fremen would never rely on them. They're off to build a shrine to a family member: why wouldn't they wear their usual stillsuits? It doesn't make sense on any level.

SandRider wrote:maybe its a literary metaphor for KJA's improvements to Frank's Dune ....

Amp wrote:Not to mention that being the first chapter, and being the first chapter leake..er, put out as a promotion, and including the juvenile stature of both the author, the text, and his attitude thereof; The stillsuit discrepancy was a blundering and idiotic attempt at a KJA-tailored 'Gotcha' move. While he says the stillsuits are superior, he kinda sorta takes it back when he has Paul think, no they aren't better. It's my call that this was a fairly obvious attempt to bait the OH community into a rabid-attack-dog stance.

SandChigger wrote:I think the attitude is more "Look what I can do! And you can't stop me! There are plenty of stooges out there who will eat this shit up; you know it and I know it, so like it or lump it! Ha ha ha!"But really, when I think about it, I really hope that Kevin does believe himself to be a good writer, and that he honestly thinks this shit is his best work.I prefer the image of him as a total fool.

Freakzilla wrote:I don't think he can see the irony.

Freakzilla wrote:I don't think he can see the irony.

Sole Man wrote:What's with all the RED VS. BLUE scenes all of a sudden? I'm just curios...

Family Guy wrote:Peter Griffin: I'm looking for some toilet training books.
Salesman: We have the popular 'Everybody Poops", or the less popular 'Nobody Poops But You'.
Peter Griffin: Well, you see, we're Catholic...
Salesman: Ah, then you'll want 'You're a Naughty, Naughty Boy, and That's Concentrated Evil Coming out the Back of You'.

SandRider wrote:maybe its a literary metaphor for KJA's improvements to Frank's Dune ....

Eliminating Waste
Each spacewalking astronaut wears a large, absorbent diaper called a Maximum Absorption Garment (MAG) to collect urine and feces while in the space suit. The astronaut disposes the MAG when the spacewalk is over and he/she gets dressed in regular work clothes.

A powdery chemical absorbant called sodium polyacrylate is incorporated into the fabric of the garment. Sodium polyacrylate can absorb around four hundred times its weight in water.