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    Postby SandChigger » 13 Nov 2008 14:40

    That ... or they died. ;)


    (I did a quick search through Messiah for addict- and withdrawal and spice and couldn't find anything right off, FWIW.)
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    Postby Freakzilla » 13 Nov 2008 14:54

    SC is right, at their level of addiction, withdrawl means death.
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    Postby TheDukester » 13 Nov 2008 14:58

    But, hey, in Hacky's version of events, at least they died feeling optimistic.
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    Postby Freakzilla » 13 Nov 2008 15:08

    TheDukester wrote:But, hey, in Hacky's version of events, at least they died feeling optimistic.


    That's not very "dark". :lol:
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    Postby EsperandoAGodot » 13 Nov 2008 16:09

    Hm. Wonder where I was getting that from. Oh well.
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    548/24 and runnin out of ideas ......

    Postby SandRider » 13 Nov 2008 16:28

    probably Kevin's Star Wars prequel comic book about the Ewoks and the withdrawals from bamboo they suffered when drafted by the Jedi to fight the Lego Clone War .....or Incredible Hulk #345 .... or that Sandra Bullock movie where she goes to rehab ....
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    Postby EsperandoAGodot » 13 Nov 2008 17:15

    SandRider wrote:probably Kevin's Star Wars prequel comic book about the Ewoks and the withdrawals from bamboo they suffered when drafted by the Jedi to fight the Lego Clone War .....or Incredible Hulk #345 .... or that Sandra Bullock movie where she goes to rehab ....

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    Postby SandRider » 13 Nov 2008 19:47

    or maybe from Johnny Dune's private battles with smack :

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    Postby SandChigger » 13 Nov 2008 20:02

    EsperandoAGodot wrote:Hm. Wonder where I was getting that from. Oh well.

    Well...I just did a quick grep of the file for a few keywords; that's no substitute for a thorough page-by-page search. And even Freak has been known to be fuzzy on a detail on occasion. (Once, I think. ;) )

    Have hope: Maybe Simon will find it as he rereads Messiah! :lol:

    (Seriously, I need to go back through and reread the originals myself. Abase myself in ghufran, since I've spent too much time soiled by contact with unclean things...McDune, Dumb Novels....)
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    Postby Freakzilla » 13 Nov 2008 20:40

    SandChigger wrote:
    EsperandoAGodot wrote:Hm. Wonder where I was getting that from. Oh well.

    Well...I just did a quick grep of the file for a few keywords; that's no substitute for a thorough page-by-page search. And even Freak has been known to be fuzzy on a detail on occasion. (Once, I think. ;) )

    Have hope: Maybe Simon will find it as he rereads Messiah! :lol:

    (Seriously, I need to go back through and reread the originals myself. Abase myself in ghufran, since I've spent too much time soiled by contact with unclean things...McDune, Dumb Novels....)


    I think I'd remember something like that, and I just recently finished reading the whole series (again). I think I would have commented on that in the reading group summaries.

    The only events durring the Jihad that I recall was Farok being curred of it by the sea.

    Maybe he's thinking of how the Reverend Mothers in the latter books would have spice implants that would meter out minimal dosages if they were captured by Honored Matres.
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    Postby EsperandoAGodot » 13 Nov 2008 21:46

    Freakzilla wrote:The only events durring the Jihad that I recall was Farok being curred of it by the sea.

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    Postby SandRider » 13 Nov 2008 22:29

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    Postby Omphalos » 13 Nov 2008 22:53

    Dare I ask, but is this the first time Simon has read Messiah?
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    Postby SandChigger » 14 Nov 2008 00:33

    No, I don't think so; surely not.

    It's the first time he's going to read through the books and take notes, evidently.
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    Postby Tleszer » 14 Nov 2008 08:47

    SandChigger wrote:No, I don't think so; surely not.

    It's the first time he's going to read through the books and take notes, evidently.


    I shudder to think what will become of this. :lol:
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    Postby loremaster » 17 Nov 2008 09:47

    Fantomas:

    The fremen did evolve. They had evolved to deal with dune's harsh climate. They had longer large intestines for water absorption and also their blood clotted extremely quickly to preserve moisture (which, AFAIK, has not been highlighted as a strong selective pressure on blood clotting thus far)
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    Postby SandChigger » 17 Nov 2008 20:34

    Talk about dredging 'em up! :lol:

    Great examples (not that he'll notice your reply, unless he still comes by and has hidden when he's logged in), but not directly connect with the spice, which I think was the gist of his confused OP.

    Who knows?! :?

    (I always get annoyed at statements about evolution that sound even remotely teleological. ;) )
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    Postby Omphalos » 17 Nov 2008 20:36

    SandChigger wrote:Talk about dredging 'em up! :lol:


    (I always get annoyed at statements about evolution that sound even remotely teleological. ;) )


    Have you read that Chiang story yet? Story of Your Life? Tlelology is a big component of that story, and I think Chiang makes it work fantastically. He suggests it as a natural phenomena, not the hand of god.
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    Postby SandChigger » 17 Nov 2008 20:38

    Haven't gotten to it yet; still trying to decide whether I'm going to finish the Praxis books. (Read a little more last night without getting too annoyed.)
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    Re: Fremen & SPICE

    Postby Freakzilla » 04 Sep 2010 12:11

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    Re: Fremen & SPICE

    Postby lotek » 04 Sep 2010 16:06

    cool!
    Nothing like a powerpoint presentation ;)
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    Re: Fremen & SPICE

    Postby merkin muffley » 04 Sep 2010 18:15

    That is pretty awesome.
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    Re: Fremen & SPICE

    Postby Freakzilla » 05 Sep 2010 04:20

    This one's better!

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    Re: Fremen & SPICE

    Postby Freakzilla » 05 Sep 2010 05:19

    Just combine little maker and sandtrout, combine organic matter and sandtrout excretions and it'll be perfect! :D
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    Re: Fremen & SPICE

    Postby Freakzilla » 05 Sep 2010 05:23

    Throw in some of Fish Speaker UK's Dune Font, too. :wink:
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