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Shield and knief (sword) fights in Heretics / Chapterhous?

Postby praetorianer » 13 May 2013 03:41

Hello and greetings from germany,

sorry my english is not the best.

My question is, if there are fights with shields and swords ( knifes ) in Heretics / Chapterhous...?

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Re: Shield and knief (sword) fights in Heretics / Chapterhous?

Postby Freakzilla » 13 May 2013 10:41

No, shields are no longer in common use by that time. They were banned by Leto II. Lasguns seem to be the prefered weapon.
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Postby praetorianer » 13 May 2013 11:00

Freakzilla wrote:No, shields are no longer in common use by that time. They were banned by Leto II. Lasguns seem to be the prefered weapon.



Thank you for your help!

OK, and what is with knife and swords..?

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Postby Freakzilla » 13 May 2013 11:45

I can't recall them being used off the top of my head. Anyone?
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Re: Shield and knief (sword) fights in Heretics / Chapterhous?

Postby lotek » 14 May 2013 07:26

Not that I can think of either, maybe for training and ceremonial purposes?

But Chapterhouse especially was a big shift from the old Dune warfare, when you read the Bashar's description of the attack on Gammu for example. All the weaponry and tactics are entirely different since shields are not an option anymore.
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Re: Shield and knief (sword) fights in Heretics / Chapterhous?

Postby praetorianer » 14 May 2013 09:58

Thanks for your help...

I love to read more about sword and knife fights - perhaps there will be a some little fights...

In some pictures you can see Miles Teg with a sword in his hand:

http://www.google.de/imgres?imgurl=http ... Ag&dur=133

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Postby Freakzilla » 14 May 2013 11:38

I believe Duncan and Teg trained with swords.

But when it came to killing, Teg cut them in half with a lazgun.
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Re: Shield and knief (sword) fights in Heretics / Chapterhous?

Postby Naïve mind » 14 May 2013 14:38

lotek wrote:But Chapterhouse especially was a big shift from the old Dune warfare, when you read the Bashar's description of the attack on Gammu for example. All the weaponry and tactics are entirely different since shields are not an option anymore.


I read it a few weeks ago, and for either the assault on Junction or the diversionary assault on Gammu, shields were used as nuclear weapons; nobody expected that, because they had fallen into disuse.

There was also a statement that shields and swords had only worked as long as the Landsraad and Guild had been able to enforce Marquess of Queensberry rules. After the scattering, that ended.

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Postby praetorianer » 15 May 2013 07:58

Naïve mind wrote:
lotek wrote:But Chapterhouse especially was a big shift from the old Dune warfare, when you read the Bashar's description of the attack on Gammu for example. All the weaponry and tactics are entirely different since shields are not an option anymore.


I read it a few weeks ago, and for either the assault on Junction or the diversionary assault on Gammu, shields were used as nuclear weapons; nobody expected that, because they had fallen into disuse.

There was also a statement that shields and swords had only worked as long as the Landsraad and Guild had been able to enforce Marquess of Queensberry rules. After the scattering, that ended.


Thank you for your help,

but will there be swords as parts of the uniform ...?

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Postby Freakzilla » 15 May 2013 12:46

The shield/lazgun bombs were Duncan's idea, he was familiar with their use.
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Re: Shield and knief (sword) fights in Heretics / Chapterhous?

Postby lotek » 15 May 2013 15:13

Am I the only one finding weird that insistence on the same question over and over again ?
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Re: Shield and knief (sword) fights in Heretics / Chapterhous?

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lotek wrote:Am I the only one finding weird that insistence on the same question over and over again ?


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Re: Shield and knief (sword) fights in Heretics / Chapterhous?

Postby lotek » 16 May 2013 05:56

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Re: Shield and knief (sword) fights in Heretics / Chapterhous?

Postby Omphalos » 16 May 2013 13:16

Why are the internet denizens so paranoid?

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Postby Serkanner » 17 May 2013 06:43

Omphalos wrote:Why are the internet denizens so paranoid?


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Re: Shield and knief (sword) fights in Heretics / Chapterhous?

Postby lotek » 17 May 2013 08:08

Omphalos wrote:Why are the internet denizens so paranoid?


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Re: Shield and knief (sword) fights in Heretics / Chapterhous?

Postby inhuien » 21 May 2013 12:23

No! But have my suspicions.
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Re: Shield and knief (sword) fights in Heretics / Chapterhous?

Postby lotek » 23 May 2013 12:20

The knief gave it away.
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