The Rules
Posted: 08 Feb 2008 21:07
Omphalos is the Judge of the Change.
DO NOT OFFEND HIM
Sandrider is WATERMASTER
If he says so, your water will be poured on the sand.
Now...
Most of my members are here because they were banned from Dunenovels, some banned from Arrakeen before that, and I founded Jacurutu on the premise that people would not be censored.
I do not ban people for calling other members childish names or because someone feels insulted.
We can either have free speech or censorship not both and middle ground makes me a hypocrite.
So, if you're easily insulted or offended, maybe Jacurutu isn't the place for you. If you can take the heat, you're welcome to it.
1. No personal attacks.
Also Known as: Ad Hominem Abusive.
Description of Personal Attack
A personal attack is committed when a person substitutes abusive remarks for evidence when attacking another person's claim or claims. This line of "reasoning" is fallacious because the attack is directed at the person making the claim and not the claim itself. The truth value of a claim is independent of the person making the claim. After all, no matter how repugnant an individual might be, he or she can still make true claims.
Not all ad Hominems are fallacious. In some cases, an individual's characteristics can have a bearing on the question of the veracity of her claims. For example, if someone is shown to be a pathological liar, then what he says can be considered to be unreliable. However, such attacks are weak, since even pathological liars might speak the truth on occasion.
In general, it is best to focus one's attention on the content of the claim and not on who made the claim. It is the content that determines the truth of the claim and not the characteristics of the person making the claim.
Examples of Personal Attack
In a school debate, Bill claims that the President's economic plan is unrealistic. His opponent, a professor, retorts by saying "the freshman has his facts wrong."
"This theory about a potential cure for cancer has been introduced by a doctor who is a known lesbian feminist. I don't see why we should extend an invitation for her to speak at the World Conference on Cancer."
"Bill says that we should give tax breaks to companies. But he is untrustworthy, so it must be wrong to do that."
"That claim cannot be true. Dave believes it, and we know how morally repulsive he is."
"Bill claims that Jane would be a good treasurer. However I find Bill's behavior offensive, so I'm not going to vote for Jill."
"Jane says that drug use is morally wrong, but she is just a goody-two shoes Christian, so we don't have to listen to her."
Bill: "I don't think it is a good idea to cut social programs."
Jill: "Why not?"
Bill: "Well, many people do not get a fair start in life and hence need some help. After all, some people have wealthy parents and have it fairly easy. Others are born into poverty and..."
Jill: "You just say that stuff because you have a soft heart and an equally soft head."
2. Keep the profanity to a minimum.
3. No pornography.
4. No advertisements.
5. English only. Non-English posts will be deleted. (Exceptions: Galach, Chakobsa, and Fremen)
6. No spam.
7. No personal information about other members.
8. Nothing illegal in the USA.
I may or may not add more later...
DO NOT OFFEND HIM
Sandrider is WATERMASTER
If he says so, your water will be poured on the sand.
Now...
Most of my members are here because they were banned from Dunenovels, some banned from Arrakeen before that, and I founded Jacurutu on the premise that people would not be censored.
I do not ban people for calling other members childish names or because someone feels insulted.
We can either have free speech or censorship not both and middle ground makes me a hypocrite.
So, if you're easily insulted or offended, maybe Jacurutu isn't the place for you. If you can take the heat, you're welcome to it.
1. No personal attacks.
Also Known as: Ad Hominem Abusive.
Description of Personal Attack
A personal attack is committed when a person substitutes abusive remarks for evidence when attacking another person's claim or claims. This line of "reasoning" is fallacious because the attack is directed at the person making the claim and not the claim itself. The truth value of a claim is independent of the person making the claim. After all, no matter how repugnant an individual might be, he or she can still make true claims.
Not all ad Hominems are fallacious. In some cases, an individual's characteristics can have a bearing on the question of the veracity of her claims. For example, if someone is shown to be a pathological liar, then what he says can be considered to be unreliable. However, such attacks are weak, since even pathological liars might speak the truth on occasion.
In general, it is best to focus one's attention on the content of the claim and not on who made the claim. It is the content that determines the truth of the claim and not the characteristics of the person making the claim.
Examples of Personal Attack
In a school debate, Bill claims that the President's economic plan is unrealistic. His opponent, a professor, retorts by saying "the freshman has his facts wrong."
"This theory about a potential cure for cancer has been introduced by a doctor who is a known lesbian feminist. I don't see why we should extend an invitation for her to speak at the World Conference on Cancer."
"Bill says that we should give tax breaks to companies. But he is untrustworthy, so it must be wrong to do that."
"That claim cannot be true. Dave believes it, and we know how morally repulsive he is."
"Bill claims that Jane would be a good treasurer. However I find Bill's behavior offensive, so I'm not going to vote for Jill."
"Jane says that drug use is morally wrong, but she is just a goody-two shoes Christian, so we don't have to listen to her."
Bill: "I don't think it is a good idea to cut social programs."
Jill: "Why not?"
Bill: "Well, many people do not get a fair start in life and hence need some help. After all, some people have wealthy parents and have it fairly easy. Others are born into poverty and..."
Jill: "You just say that stuff because you have a soft heart and an equally soft head."
2. Keep the profanity to a minimum.
3. No pornography.
4. No advertisements.
5. English only. Non-English posts will be deleted. (Exceptions: Galach, Chakobsa, and Fremen)
6. No spam.
7. No personal information about other members.
8. Nothing illegal in the USA.
I may or may not add more later...
but i will keep it minimal
Just that you'll probably be busy deleting these new member requests with regularity as time goes by.