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Re: Dragon*Con!!!

Posted: 07 Sep 2009 20:42
by trang
interesting to say the least, would devour cut chapters from GEoD!!!

NO BERG FOR DUNE 2010? A delay on the film? A realization he was the wrong choice? Project canceled? very curious about that one.

Look forward to audio, and thanks for going and sharing Freak!!!

Re: Dragon*Con!!!

Posted: 08 Sep 2009 07:48
by SadisticCynic
You da man, Freak! :dance:

Re: Dragon*Con!!!

Posted: 08 Sep 2009 08:08
by Freakzilla
trang wrote:interesting to say the least, would devour cut chapters from GEoD!!!

NO BERG FOR DUNE 2010? A delay on the film? A realization he was the wrong choice? Project canceled? very curious about that one.

Look forward to audio, and thanks for going and sharing Freak!!!


They said Berg signed up to do two other movies so he won't be available. Some one in the crowed yelled, "No Micheal Bay!"

:lol:

Re: Dragon*Con!!!

Posted: 08 Sep 2009 08:24
by Freakzilla
Nebiros wrote:So they called The Road to Dune the 'cream of the crop' of Frank Herbert's notes. But they left out several deleted or cut out chapters. And from God Emperor of all novels! Those would have been great to read.

Damn! And instead they filled the rest of the book with their short stories! And added one in the later edition (sea child).


I cornered Byron and begged him to preserve the notes and outline for posterity. He said they will probably go to Fullerton or Fresno?

Re: Dragon*Con!!!

Posted: 08 Sep 2009 08:32
by SadisticCynic
Freakzilla wrote:
trang wrote:interesting to say the least, would devour cut chapters from GEoD!!!

NO BERG FOR DUNE 2010? A delay on the film? A realization he was the wrong choice? Project canceled? very curious about that one.

Look forward to audio, and thanks for going and sharing Freak!!!


They said Berg signed up to do two other movies so he won't be available. Some one in the crowed yelled, "No Micheal Bay!"

:lol:


:lol: I hope that was an applause line.

Re: Dragon*Con!!!

Posted: 08 Sep 2009 08:33
by inhuien
Freakzilla wrote:I cornered Byron and begged him to preserve the notes and outline for posterity. He said they will probably go to Fullerton or Fresno?

There is, may be or could have been a God. Thanks Freakzilla that's momentous news.

Re: Dragon*Con!!!

Posted: 08 Sep 2009 09:40
by Freakzilla
inhuien wrote:
Freakzilla wrote:I cornered Byron and begged him to preserve the notes and outline for posterity. He said they will probably go to Fullerton or Fresno?

There is, may be or could have been a God. Thanks Freakzilla that's momentous news.


If the panel had lasted longer (there were a lot of questions asked), I was going to point out to KJA that he told me last year all the interesting stuff from the notes was put into RtD... Lost chapters from GEoD are not interesting? WTF?

So I had to stick around and plea for sanity.

Re: Dragon*Con!!!

Posted: 08 Sep 2009 09:41
by Freakzilla
SadisticCynic wrote:
Freakzilla wrote:
trang wrote:interesting to say the least, would devour cut chapters from GEoD!!!

NO BERG FOR DUNE 2010? A delay on the film? A realization he was the wrong choice? Project canceled? very curious about that one.

Look forward to audio, and thanks for going and sharing Freak!!!


They said Berg signed up to do two other movies so he won't be available. Some one in the crowed yelled, "No Micheal Bay!"

:lol:


:lol: I hope that was an applause line.


It got a good laugh. :)

Re: Dragon*Con!!!

Posted: 08 Sep 2009 10:32
by Drunken Idaho
Freakzilla wrote:
Peter Berg will NOT be directing Dune (2010).



Very interesting. Think he ducked out after reading Zetumer's script, not wanting to face the Talifans after screwing up Dune? I hope that's not the case. Maybe they'll find someone with a more impressive body of work than Berg. Neil Blomkampf, perhaps? I could see Sharlto Copley as Kynes.

Freakzilla wrote:There are cut chapters of GEoD in "The Notes"!


*Drool*

Would love to see those, if there's any truth to it.

Re: Dragon*Con!!!

Posted: 08 Sep 2009 11:26
by SandRider
did you tell Merritt who you were ?

did he seem at all interested in meeting you ?

is he pushing 300lbs or over ?

Re: Dragon*Con!!!

Posted: 08 Sep 2009 11:33
by Dune Nerd
SandRider wrote:did you tell Merritt who you were ?

did he seem at all interested in meeting you ?

is he pushing 300lbs or over ?


He is actually skinny. Freak told him who he was (I think he already knew, Freak can speak to that better than I)

I was interested by the other guy in the panel (no idea what his name was or why he was on the panel). At one point in the barrage of Anti-KJA sentiment he spoke up and said something like, "Well that is one of the biggest criticisms of the book..." Kevin may have shit himself and you could tell he was anxious to get out of there. He even ended a bit early to avoid Freak's 2nd question (maybe not just Freak's but certainly the Anti-KJA sentiment). I think he may have been caught off guard b/c it is Dragon*Con and in his mind anything that involves Star Wars and Star Trek is a safe haven but he forgot that the people that he was talking to are skeptic/scientific minded in a way that no hack fan could ever be.

This is my summation of the panel:

It was classic ass-hat, having now heard him in person talk a lot about himself and how great he is, I will NEVER respect or read anything of his. I am actually considering a book-bonfire in my backyard with anything that has his name on it. Any donators? I will post video.


Edit to add: I got a cool winds of doon 'sling bag' that was well worth the trip. This will be included in the fire.

Re: Dragon*Con!!!

Posted: 08 Sep 2009 11:37
by Omphalos
Freakzilla wrote:
Nebiros wrote:So they called The Road to Dune the 'cream of the crop' of Frank Herbert's notes. But they left out several deleted or cut out chapters. And from God Emperor of all novels! Those would have been great to read.

Damn! And instead they filled the rest of the book with their short stories! And added one in the later edition (sea child).


I cornered Byron and begged him to preserve the notes and outline for posterity. He said they will probably go to Fullerton or Fresno?


Fresno? I just checked and there is no worthy SF library in Fresno. What the hell is he talking about?

Re: Dragon*Con!!!

Posted: 08 Sep 2009 11:39
by Dune Nerd
Omphalos wrote:
Freakzilla wrote:
Nebiros wrote:So they called The Road to Dune the 'cream of the crop' of Frank Herbert's notes. But they left out several deleted or cut out chapters. And from God Emperor of all novels! Those would have been great to read.

Damn! And instead they filled the rest of the book with their short stories! And added one in the later edition (sea child).


I cornered Byron and begged him to preserve the notes and outline for posterity. He said they will probably go to Fullerton or Fresno?


Fresno? I just checked and there is no worthy SF library in Fresno. What the hell is he talking about?


I thought he said something about one in Oregon. Haven't you mentioned one in Oregon before?

Re: Dragon*Con!!!

Posted: 08 Sep 2009 11:47
by Freakzilla
Dune Nerd wrote:
Omphalos wrote:
Freakzilla wrote:
Nebiros wrote:So they called The Road to Dune the 'cream of the crop' of Frank Herbert's notes. But they left out several deleted or cut out chapters. And from God Emperor of all novels! Those would have been great to read.

Damn! And instead they filled the rest of the book with their short stories! And added one in the later edition (sea child).


I cornered Byron and begged him to preserve the notes and outline for posterity. He said they will probably go to Fullerton or Fresno?


Fresno? I just checked and there is no worthy SF library in Fresno. What the hell is he talking about?


I thought he said something about one in Oregon. Haven't you mentioned one in Oregon before?


I can't remember where he said besides Fullerton... if I stop thinking about it, it will come to me... was it Portland?

Re: Dragon*Con!!!

Posted: 08 Sep 2009 11:54
by SandRider
wait, back up a minute.

Merritt skinny ? Really ?

I find that hard to comprehend ...

Image

Re: Dragon*Con!!!

Posted: 08 Sep 2009 12:01
by Freakzilla
Dune Nerd wrote:
SandRider wrote:did you tell Merritt who you were ?

did he seem at all interested in meeting you ?

is he pushing 300lbs or over ?


He is actually skinny. Freak told him who he was (I think he already knew, Freak can speak to that better than I)


I didn't have to. I ran to the bathroom just before the panel started and when I got back, Byron was standing in front of the door. I recognized him, but the D*C badges have your name on them and mine had "FREAKZILLA" on it too. His height threw me at first, I'm 6' so he must be like 6'-6". I walked up to him and said hi. He said something like, "I was wondering when you were going to show up!". He said that he hoped there were no hard feelings between us and I told him it was just business. He was very nice, I was suprised.

I was interested by the other guy in the panel (no idea what his name was or why he was on the panel). At one point in the barrage of Anti-KJA sentiment he spoke up and said something like, "Well that is one of the biggest criticisms of the book..."


That was after my "Marty and Daniel" question, and KJA's "thanks for spoiling it!" reply.

I'll look in the program and see who the third guy was.

Re: Dragon*Con!!!

Posted: 08 Sep 2009 12:01
by Dune Nerd
Freakzilla wrote:
Dune Nerd wrote:
Omphalos wrote:
Freakzilla wrote:
Nebiros wrote:So they called The Road to Dune the 'cream of the crop' of Frank Herbert's notes. But they left out several deleted or cut out chapters. And from God Emperor of all novels! Those would have been great to read.

Damn! And instead they filled the rest of the book with their short stories! And added one in the later edition (sea child).


I cornered Byron and begged him to preserve the notes and outline for posterity. He said they will probably go to Fullerton or Fresno?


Fresno? I just checked and there is no worthy SF library in Fresno. What the hell is he talking about?


I thought he said something about one in Oregon. Haven't you mentioned one in Oregon before?


I can't remember where he said besides Fullerton... if I stop thinking about it, it will come to me... was it Portland?


Portland was it.

Re: Dragon*Con!!!

Posted: 08 Sep 2009 12:17
by Drunken Idaho
Interesting stuff, guys. Good work!

Freak, you should have casually mentioned Jacurutu's heavy site traffic to Byron! :P

Re: Dragon*Con!!!

Posted: 08 Sep 2009 12:20
by TheDukester
Dune Nerd wrote:I think he may have been caught off guard b/c it is Dragon*Con and in his mind anything that involves Star Wars and Star Trek is a safe haven but he forgot that the people that he was talking to are skeptic/scientific minded in a way that no hack fan could ever be.

Classic!

Yeah, I'm guessing he got complacent after his whirlwind "everybody loves me!" signing tour with Bobo. It's wonderful to hear that he made uncomfortable in Atlanta.

Re: Dragon*Con!!!

Posted: 08 Sep 2009 12:30
by Freakzilla
SandRider wrote:wait, back up a minute.

Merritt skinny ? Really ?

I find that hard to comprehend ...

Image


He was much thinner than in that picture. (Much grayer, too :P )

Re: Dragon*Con!!!

Posted: 08 Sep 2009 14:15
by Omphalos
Freakzilla wrote:
Dune Nerd wrote:
Omphalos wrote:
Freakzilla wrote:
Nebiros wrote:So they called The Road to Dune the 'cream of the crop' of Frank Herbert's notes. But they left out several deleted or cut out chapters. And from God Emperor of all novels! Those would have been great to read.

Damn! And instead they filled the rest of the book with their short stories! And added one in the later edition (sea child).


I cornered Byron and begged him to preserve the notes and outline for posterity. He said they will probably go to Fullerton or Fresno?


Fresno? I just checked and there is no worthy SF library in Fresno. What the hell is he talking about?


I thought he said something about one in Oregon. Haven't you mentioned one in Oregon before?


I can't remember where he said besides Fullerton... if I stop thinking about it, it will come to me... was it Portland?


There is a library in Portland that has some FH letters, but only as part of the John C. Campbell archives. FH's personal library is housed in the Florence public library, but they are not archivists up there. They are public librarians who, IIRC, just have a few shelves of FH's old reference books and novels. Ive been meaning to go up to see if any of them are hand annotated, but other than that there is no reason to visit it. If they put FH stuff up there I suspect it would eventually get lost, or would deteriorate quickly, and it certainly would be hard to get to. Oregon is remote enough, but Florence is very hard to get to.

Re: Dragon*Con!!!

Posted: 08 Sep 2009 14:21
by Freakzilla
Florence! That's what he said.

Re: Dragon*Con!!!

Posted: 08 Sep 2009 15:14
by Ampoliros
Good to hear that Byron was civil in person. I'd love to have been at that panel to see KJA squirm.

Re: Dragon*Con!!!

Posted: 08 Sep 2009 16:17
by Sandwurm88
I can see Byron being a nice guy. He was civil before the Jacurutu thing, besides that one outburst where he compared some guy from Arrakeen (might've been SR..?) to a piece of toilet paper or something. Didn't think he'd be 6' 6'' though! Omphalos is probably bigger than him, though. And it doesn't surprise me that Kevvy is a bitchy queen in person. He has never really said anything really that nice online, even fake, come to think of it.

Re: Dragon*Con!!!

Posted: 08 Sep 2009 17:27
by TheDukester
Freakzilla wrote:Florence!

Lots of dunes near there.

I don't have it right in front of me, but wasn't Florence where FH went for the original magazine article that eventually morphed into Dune?