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"We are the last generation of humans on Earth!"

Postby cmsahe » 15 Jun 2010 00:10

An interesting article and video by Bill Gaede. He has the thesis that we are condemned to extintion due to the overturning of the Economical Pyramid, Who produces the food in an economical model totally dedicated to services? he says-


http://www.youstupidrelativist.com/08Ext/00SumExt.html
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Postby A Thing of Eternity » 15 Jun 2010 01:23

Yeah... no. I don't even have to watch it. No.
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Postby SandChigger » 15 Jun 2010 04:01

Bill WHO? Gaedes, the Micro$oft guy? Huh?

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Postby Superdog » 16 Jun 2010 20:54

So the US economy collapses and everyone dies? Umm... no.

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Postby A Thing of Eternity » 16 Jun 2010 23:10

Like I said, didn't even have to watch the clip, silly idea. Every single economy on the planet could hit rock bottom and we'd be fine (hell, it's probably be a blessing in disguise, save us from all the pollution).
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Postby cmsahe » 18 Jun 2010 01:32

A Thing of Eternity wrote:Like I said, didn't even have to watch the clip, silly idea. Every single economy on the planet could hit rock bottom and we'd be fine (hell, it's probably be a blessing in disguise, save us from all the pollution).


BTW How did the Big Famine, that lead to the Scattering, happened in Dune?
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Re: "We are the last generation of humans on Earth!"

Postby Apjak » 18 Jun 2010 01:50

Because the famine wasn't a shortage of food, but of the Spice.
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Re: "We are the last generation of humans on Earth!"

Postby A Little Galach » 18 Jun 2010 08:47

cmsahe wrote:
A Thing of Eternity wrote:Like I said, didn't even have to watch the clip, silly idea. Every single economy on the planet could hit rock bottom and we'd be fine (hell, it's probably be a blessing in disguise, save us from all the pollution).


BTW How did the Big Famine, that lead to the Scattering, happened in Dune?


A curious question for someone with 500+ posts on a Dune forum.

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Re: "We are the last generation of humans on Earth!"

Postby lotek » 18 Jun 2010 09:36

Apjak wrote:Because the famine wasn't a shortage of food, but of the Spice.

a bit like we're running short of fossil fuel then ;)
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Postby SandRider » 18 Jun 2010 10:29

lotek wrote:
Apjak wrote:Because the famine wasn't a shortage of food, but of the Spice.

a bit like we're running short of fossil fuel then ;)


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Postby A Thing of Eternity » 18 Jun 2010 11:32

cmsahe wrote:
A Thing of Eternity wrote:Like I said, didn't even have to watch the clip, silly idea. Every single economy on the planet could hit rock bottom and we'd be fine (hell, it's probably be a blessing in disguise, save us from all the pollution).


BTW How did the Big Famine, that lead to the Scattering, happened in Dune?


What does that have to do with this? If major economies collapse, then yes, many/most/whatever people on this planet will die - but not all. Bloody hell, some of us are capable of living off the land.
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cmsahe wrote:
A Thing of Eternity wrote:Like I said, didn't even have to watch the clip, silly idea. Every single economy on the planet could hit rock bottom and we'd be fine (hell, it's probably be a blessing in disguise, save us from all the pollution).


BTW How did the Big Famine, that lead to the Scattering, happened in Dune?


Leto killed off all the worms and hoarded all the spice. :roll:

BTW, that didn't lead to The Scattering. The invention of the INM along with the supression of space travel for millenia did that.

The Famine Times occurred simultaneously.
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A Thing of Eternity wrote:
cmsahe wrote:
A Thing of Eternity wrote:Like I said, didn't even have to watch the clip, silly idea. Every single economy on the planet could hit rock bottom and we'd be fine (hell, it's probably be a blessing in disguise, save us from all the pollution).


BTW How did the Big Famine, that lead to the Scattering, happened in Dune?


What does that have to do with this? If major economies collapse, then yes, many/most/whatever people on this planet will die - but not all. Bloody hell, some of us are capable of living off the land.

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A Thing of Eternity wrote:
cmsahe wrote:
A Thing of Eternity wrote:Like I said, didn't even have to watch the clip, silly idea. Every single economy on the planet could hit rock bottom and we'd be fine (hell, it's probably be a blessing in disguise, save us from all the pollution).


BTW How did the Big Famine, that lead to the Scattering, happened in Dune?


What does that have to do with this? If major economies collapse, then yes, many/most/whatever people on this planet will die - but not all. Bloody hell, some of us are capable of living off the land.
If before that the government didn't take your guns, then you would be able to defend your property and land from the hungry masses. But when you ran out of ammo, what then?
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Postby merkin muffley » 20 Jun 2010 05:34

cmsahe wrote: If before that the government didn't take your guns, then you would be able to defend your property and land from the hungry masses. But when you ran out of ammo, what then?


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Postby SandChigger » 20 Jun 2010 08:13

merkin muffley wrote:Bear Grylls shall rule the Earth.

Fuck yeah! :lol:

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Re: "We are the last generation of humans on Earth!"

Postby Superdog » 20 Jun 2010 19:15

There are places in the world where if the economy completely collapsed they wouldn't even notice.

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Postby TheDukester » 20 Jun 2010 19:29

My wallet would be a great example ...
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Postby A Thing of Eternity » 21 Jun 2010 11:58

cmsahe wrote:
A Thing of Eternity wrote:
cmsahe wrote:
A Thing of Eternity wrote:Like I said, didn't even have to watch the clip, silly idea. Every single economy on the planet could hit rock bottom and we'd be fine (hell, it's probably be a blessing in disguise, save us from all the pollution).


BTW How did the Big Famine, that lead to the Scattering, happened in Dune?


What does that have to do with this? If major economies collapse, then yes, many/most/whatever people on this planet will die - but not all. Bloody hell, some of us are capable of living off the land.
If before that the government didn't take your guns, then you would be able to defend your property and land from the hungry masses. But when you ran out of ammo, what then?


What are you talking about? First off, I don't have any guns to take. Second off - yes a lot of people would die to raiding and general violence - but how would this lead to extinction? It wouldn't. You seriously think that just because all the economies collapse, everyone is just going to neatly line up to shoot eachother, and then the last person in the world will say "oops"?

There would be a lot of violence, and probably 70% - 90% of humans would die in the first year, but we'd still have millions and millions, and hundreds of millions of people left. A lot of those people would form decent little towns and societies within a week of disaster hitting, and then those would build and build and build.

The human race would be FINE. I don't see ANY reason to think otherwise.
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Postby Freakzilla » 21 Jun 2010 12:01

If we can survive super-volcanoes we can survive economic collapse. :roll:
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Postby SandChigger » 21 Jun 2010 19:42

A Thing of Eternity wrote:There would be a lot of violence, and probably 70% - 90% of humans would die in the first year, but we'd still have millions and millions, and hundreds of millions of people left. A lot of those people would form decent little towns and societies within a week of disaster hitting, and then those would build and build and build.

The human race would be FINE. I don't see ANY reason to think otherwise.

And then the comet would hit. :lol:

Freakzilla wrote:If we can survive super-volcanoes we can survive economic collapse. :roll:

But... we almost didn't survive the last super-volcano. :?

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SandChigger wrote:
Freakzilla wrote:If we can survive super-volcanoes we can survive economic collapse. :roll:

But... we almost didn't survive the last super-volcano. :?


I'll take "almost didn't survive" over "extinction" any day.
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Postby SandChigger » 21 Jun 2010 20:36

Jury's still out, I think. ;)

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Postby Freakzilla » 21 Jun 2010 20:43

SandChigger wrote:Jury's still out, I think. ;)


At least we know where you stand. :roll:
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