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Looking for the FACTS...
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Re: Looking for the FACTS...
That's good enough for me!SandRider wrote: it's more fun to blame Keith, tho ....![]()

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redbugpest wrote:Could have ... < blah, blah, blah ... play the victim card ... play the close-minded card ... blah, blah, blah ... random insults ... blah, blah, blah> ... and Fact mean…

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That is just what you are doing - just admit you were WRONGTheDukester wrote:redbugpest wrote:Could have ... < blah, blah, blah ... play the victim card ... play the close-minded card ... blah, blah, blah ... random insults ... blah, blah, blah> ... and Fact mean…
It won't hurt anything but your pride...
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He's fucked.
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Re: Looking for the FACTS...
I must admit, while I don't really agree with this practice of not responding to any of RBPs posts ...
... it's funny as hell to watch.
HBJ
... it's funny as hell to watch.
HBJ
"The sky calls to us. If we do not destroy ourselves, we will one day venture to the stars."
- Carl Sagan
I'm still very proud of The Quarry but … let's face it; in the end the real best way to sign off would have been with a great big rollicking Culture novel.
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I'm still very proud of The Quarry but … let's face it; in the end the real best way to sign off would have been with a great big rollicking Culture novel.
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I like it 
Well done, Dukester!

Well done, Dukester!
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Re: Looking for the FACTS...
I'm sorry, but assuming that Arrakis, the Imperial seat, and the sole location of the most important resource in the galaxy gets visited about once per month by a Guild Heighliner is categorically retarded.
Transportation in Winds of Dune a major point of contention: its quite obvious that KJA doesn't care about how the system would work, he's going to write the system around how the story works, even when it totally contradicts not only his own system but the logic of a space-faring society. He obviously cannot grasp the Guild's monopoly on travel, nor the travel times.
Chew on these and get back to me with a response. Answers from Winds will not suffice, you need to think about why these questions matter in the sense of Dune Canon and simple common sense.
Why does Shaddam know about Paul's Death before Jessica?
Why does Jessica not know Chani is pregnant?
Why are all of the Female characters, even Royals and Regents forced to use public landing zones when male characters can take off from the Palace landing pad?
Why is security in nuDune a complete joke?
How are Paul and Bronso hiding on the Cargo lander for "several hours" and then on the Heighliner and gone before anyone notices?
Why do the Bene Gesseritt not care at all that Young Paul has gone missing?
Why does the Guild punish Paul and Bronso for attempting (and in Bronso's case succeeding) to see a Navigator with exile to the Jongleur troop?
Why do House Atredies and House Vernius (sic) send the worst people to do the job when their heirs are missing.
Why does Leto punish Paul only by sending him to his room to think about his actions.
Why does a planetary governor pardon and release Jongleur dancers when Paul knows they are assassins who tried to assassinate said governor?
Transportation in Winds of Dune a major point of contention: its quite obvious that KJA doesn't care about how the system would work, he's going to write the system around how the story works, even when it totally contradicts not only his own system but the logic of a space-faring society. He obviously cannot grasp the Guild's monopoly on travel, nor the travel times.
Chew on these and get back to me with a response. Answers from Winds will not suffice, you need to think about why these questions matter in the sense of Dune Canon and simple common sense.
Why does Shaddam know about Paul's Death before Jessica?
Why does Jessica not know Chani is pregnant?
Why are all of the Female characters, even Royals and Regents forced to use public landing zones when male characters can take off from the Palace landing pad?
Why is security in nuDune a complete joke?
How are Paul and Bronso hiding on the Cargo lander for "several hours" and then on the Heighliner and gone before anyone notices?
Why do the Bene Gesseritt not care at all that Young Paul has gone missing?
Why does the Guild punish Paul and Bronso for attempting (and in Bronso's case succeeding) to see a Navigator with exile to the Jongleur troop?
Why do House Atredies and House Vernius (sic) send the worst people to do the job when their heirs are missing.
Why does Leto punish Paul only by sending him to his room to think about his actions.
Why does a planetary governor pardon and release Jongleur dancers when Paul knows they are assassins who tried to assassinate said governor?
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Re: Looking for the FACTS...
ANY of his posts OUTSIDE the ATTN threads until he seriously addresses the questions was my understanding.Hunchback Jack wrote:I must admit, while I don't really agree with this practice of not responding to any of RBPs posts ...

Either way, I've put him back into my foe list, so I don't see anything unless someone quotes him.
So don't quote him.

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Stole the idea from SandRider. He was busy gathering the evidence to address Brian Conway's Great Internet Conspiracy Of 2009, and I just handed him a bottle of bourbon, said "Look! A reindeer!" and stole it from right under his nose.GamePlayer wrote:I like it
Well done, Dukester!
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On a more serious note, I actually think it's the way to go, for three reasons:
1. The admins have made it clear that the personal attacks are getting to be a bit much;
2. He's just continually repeating himself at this point, and is thus unworthy of a response;
3. After getting no response in any other threads, maybe he'll drift over to the SIX McDune threads where people actually want to hear what he has to say.
"Anything I write will be remembered and listed in bibliographies on Dune for several hundred years ..." — some delusional halfwit troll.
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What?Why does the Guild punish Paul and Bronso for attempting (and in Bronso's case succeeding) to see a Navigator with exile to the Jongleur troop?
No, really ... what?
HBJ
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- Iain Banks
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Ampoliros, could you repost those in a new ATTN thread, since this one is more a silly snitfest over something posted on Amazon? 

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you mean you can't just put on your Amp cap and do it? Why do i have to be the heavy laborer in this schizophrenic experiment?
sigh, done.
sigh, done.
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Re: Looking for the FACTS...
Look, Amp is Chig's *BITCH*. 
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- Carl Sagan
I'm still very proud of The Quarry but … let's face it; in the end the real best way to sign off would have been with a great big rollicking Culture novel.
- Iain Banks
- Carl Sagan
I'm still very proud of The Quarry but … let's face it; in the end the real best way to sign off would have been with a great big rollicking Culture novel.
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Sorry, Amp.
It popped into my head, I typed it in, I clicked Submit.
Bad Hunchback! Bad Hunchback!
HBJ
It popped into my head, I typed it in, I clicked Submit.
Bad Hunchback! Bad Hunchback!
HBJ
"The sky calls to us. If we do not destroy ourselves, we will one day venture to the stars."
- Carl Sagan
I'm still very proud of The Quarry but … let's face it; in the end the real best way to sign off would have been with a great big rollicking Culture novel.
- Iain Banks
- Carl Sagan
I'm still very proud of The Quarry but … let's face it; in the end the real best way to sign off would have been with a great big rollicking Culture novel.
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no cookie !
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Re: Looking for the FACTS...
Shit ... now I've got that silly tune Teg & I did in the musical podcast running through my head. 
"Bitch ... BITCH ... be my bitch! Hack! Be my BITCH!"

"Bitch ... BITCH ... be my bitch! Hack! Be my BITCH!"

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That is what I thought. There is no “Provable Fact” and Dukester isn’t man enough to post that he spoke out of turn on the Amazon forum.
Instead, Chiggie is adding me as a Foe, and The Dukester has quit talking (which, in a way is a bonus for me).
Oh, and I have exposed the real truth of the matter – that there is no answer to any of these questions that you would find acceptable because to accept that you may be wrong on even one point is to concede that you may be wrong on more than one point.
The truth is out there… (Not in here).
RBP
Instead, Chiggie is adding me as a Foe, and The Dukester has quit talking (which, in a way is a bonus for me).
Oh, and I have exposed the real truth of the matter – that there is no answer to any of these questions that you would find acceptable because to accept that you may be wrong on even one point is to concede that you may be wrong on more than one point.
The truth is out there… (Not in here).
RBP
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Re: Looking for the FACTS...
there must be a easier way to say this!redbugpest wrote:Tthat there is no answer to any of these questions that you would find acceptable because to accept that you may be wrong on even one point is to concede that you may be wrong on more than one point.
RBP
you can fool one person a thousand times but you can't fool one thousand persons one time...
no wait
you can fool one person once but you can't fool...
sod it i give up
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A negative review is never removed unless requested by the account holders on Amazon.
Guess who...
Guess who...
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redbugpest wrote:That is what I thought ... <blah, blah, blah ... more beating of the dead horse ... blah, blah, blah ... lame attempt at humor ... blah, blah, blah> ... (Not in here).

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Re: Looking for the FACTS...
Whether or not Keith is manipulating online book reviews still doesn't make his books not suck.
It doesn't matter whether we accept Red's explainations and interpretations for our issues, the FACT is, FH's books are canon and if Pinky & The Brian had adhered closely to Frank's story and even his general themes, we wouldn't have these issues.
It doesn't matter whether we accept Red's explainations and interpretations for our issues, the FACT is, FH's books are canon and if Pinky & The Brian had adhered closely to Frank's story and even his general themes, we wouldn't have these issues.