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Or we could miniturize KJA's comb-over into one.

Here's a source pic for your use.*


And since I'm not photoshop savvy, anyone care to edit what that little board says in this pic?


Brian is looking worse by the minute!

Oh, and did anyone notice Brian has a sign with "Kevin J. Anderson" in front of him, and no "Brian Herbert" sign in view?

*Yea, I know, it's done in Paint. If I could get fatter $'s to cover the yes better it could look good in an avie.

Nekhrun wrote:

Robspierre wrote:

Omphalos wrote:Please ignore that comb-over behind the curtain!

Why don't we have a comb-over smilie yet?

Working on it!

Rob

I would agree that Frank's use of the word 'catholic' is probably as ambiguous as many of his other tie-ins with 'old earth' themes/religions/species throughout the novel. The fact that it sounds and feels 'sort of' familiar, but at the same time a bit foreign and unusual gives the themes that 'lost in time' feeling.

I was even raised Catholic, and even I would generally interpret the word along it's stricter definition, meaning 'universa, or all-encompassingl'...

Who knows about the Orange part though, huh?


halcyo

Until the Hacks Twain present us with their explanation (which will then have to be examined for "Frankness" or bullshit), I'm assuming:

1. In-universe it means the universalist scripture with the orange covering,

but

2. In meta, real-world terms Frank was probably alluding to the Protestant-Catholic Irish thing.

This works for me.

Those are probably fine assumptions to make. I salute a fellow thinker's ability to see it from multiple angles - unlike what the 'hacks-twain' seem to be capable of...

Frank did seem to have a special way of allowing the reader room to make some of his or her own assumptions. He had a knack for ambiguity, which really elevates the novels to a whole 'nother level beyond most writers (who tend to explain too much)! Leaving little details like this throughout all of the series is what allows us to have so much fun using our own imaginations to make the universe real for us!

But alas, apparently subtlety is not necessarily genetic! Maybe Frank's true talents skipped a generation...?:lol:


halcyo

Yeah, if only the gumption to be different had stayed bundled with the talent as well.

Ok, so I found some evidence in GEOD that 'Orange Catholic' DOES in fact refer to the religion Catholicism. It's on page 151 of the pdf version I have:

Duncan is asking Leto a question:

"What is the feast of Siaynoq?"
"We share a wafer, no more. Even I partake."
"Is it like the Orange Catholic ritual?"
"Oh no, it is not my flesh..."

Ok, so maybe I'll go chew on my foot for a while


halcyo

I don't know...that could just mean the ritual described in the OCB.

I'm not convinced yet.

Freakzilla wrote:http://www.ebooks.com/ebooks/book_displ ... IID=327023



Nothing in the genre comes close to this price.

Asimov's Foundation, Simmon's Ilium and Gainman's American Gods are $7.99

Can anyone else say, MOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooo!!!

this is ridiculous. If I buy the hard or soft cover then I can sell it the next day, legally.
and for cheaper:
http://www.amazon.com/Dune-Messiah-Chro ... 397&sr=8-1

If I buy the ebook I can't
http://www.ebooks.com/information/customerlicense.asp

SimonH wrote:

Freakzilla wrote:http://www.ebooks.com/ebooks/book_displ ... IID=327023



Nothing in the genre comes close to this price.

Asimov's Foundation, Simmon's Ilium and Gainman's American Gods are $7.99

Can anyone else say, MOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooo!!!

this is ridiculous. If I buy the hard or soft cover then I can sell it the next day, legally.
and for cheaper:
http://www.amazon.com/Dune-Messiah-Chro ... 397&sr=8-1

If I buy the ebook I can't
http://www.ebooks.com/information/customerlicense.asp

I guess it's because the likelihood of you having copied the paperback to keep for yourself are a bit slimmer?

orald wrote:Wait, you mean an ebook like my, umm, PDF file of DM, that came for free(well, I do have to pay for my internet provider in general)?

God damn it's good being a pirate. Arr!

BTW, How could I get an ebook of sandworms of dune? I'm curious to read that thing, but withou giving them my money.

cmsahe wrote:

orald wrote:Wait, you mean an ebook like my, umm, PDF file of DM, that came for free(well, I do have to pay for my internet provider in general)?

God damn it's good being a pirate. Arr!

BTW, How could I get an ebook of sandworms of dune? I'm curious to read that thing, but withou giving them my money.

your a real glutton for punishment huh...its probably the worst book ive ever read......ever .... get ready for pointless plot lines and great characters flushed down the toilet

At least in Sadworms you could pretend that they weren't the REAL characters, just gosh-by-golley-gholas.

In the upcoming "Heroes" books, there's no such escape.