I watched 1984's DUNE last night. It's still terrible.

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Re: I watched 1984's DUNE last night. It's still terrible.

Postby Naïve mind » 20 Nov 2014 15:09

Freakzilla wrote:To put things in context, the only movies full length movies David Lynch directed before Dune were Eraserhead, a cult "midnight movie", and The Elephant Man, a commercial and critical success. The extent of his weirdness was yet to be fully revealed.


Wait, are you saying Dune was weirder than Eraserhead?

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Re: I watched 1984's DUNE last night. It's still terrible.

Postby inhuien » 20 Nov 2014 15:31

Naïve mind wrote:
Freakzilla wrote:To put things in context, the only movies full length movies David Lynch directed before Dune were Eraserhead, a cult "midnight movie", and The Elephant Man, a commercial and critical success. The extent of his weirdness was yet to be fully revealed.


Wait, are you saying Dune was weirder than Eraserhead?


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Re: I watched 1984's DUNE last night. It's still terrible.

Postby Freakzilla » 20 Nov 2014 16:13

inhuien wrote:
Naïve mind wrote:
Freakzilla wrote:To put things in context, the only movies full length movies David Lynch directed before Dune were Eraserhead, a cult "midnight movie", and The Elephant Man, a commercial and critical success. The extent of his weirdness was yet to be fully revealed.


Wait, are you saying Dune was weirder than Eraserhead?


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No, of course not. It's more like Blue Velvet weird, which came next.

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Re: I watched 1984's DUNE last night. It's still terrible.

Postby inhuien » 20 Nov 2014 16:50

Never watched BV, ya recommend it?
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Re: I watched 1984's DUNE last night. It's still terrible.

Postby Omphalos » 20 Nov 2014 19:01

inhuien wrote:Never watched BV, ya recommend it?


Hell yea. I really liked that one. Can't go wrong with a tweaked out Dennis Hopper.

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Re: I watched 1984's DUNE last night. It's still terrible.

Postby lotek » 21 Nov 2014 08:22

(on Dennis Hopper, I went to see the Lost Album Exhibition not long ago, pretty cool stuff. And there is a website that lists all DH related exhibitions http://dennishopper.com/exhibitions/ )
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Re: I watched 1984's DUNE last night. It's still terrible.

Postby D Pope » 21 Nov 2014 10:19

Saw a Lynch interview years ago, when asked what Hopper had been huffing in BV, Lynch said oxygen.
He wanted the character to be whacked out when his brain started working better. I've found this tidbit
enhances my memory of the story.
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Re: I watched 1984's DUNE last night. It's still terrible.

Postby lotek » 25 Nov 2014 07:07

I saw that movie when I was very young, and I loved it.
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Re: I watched 1984's DUNE last night. It's still terrible.

Postby georgiedenbro » 30 Nov 2014 12:07

Last night I watched the Alternate Edition V.2 fan edit, by Spicedriver. I have to say that I prefer the other full versions such as the director's cut, or the super-mega complete version (of which there are several). I felt that the inclusion of certain deleted scenes took away from both the movie's focus and also some of them were just bad. It's hard to remember exactly without a side-by-side comparison, but I thought some of the Rabban scenes were useless, the scenes of Ramallo rambling were weird, the deleted Alia scene just strange to be strange, and the intro didn't flow well.

For my part I'd have to say this version isn't the best, although a few of the newly added scenes are good, such as the alternate ending.
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Re: I watched 1984's DUNE last night. It's still terrible.

Postby Freakzilla » 30 Nov 2014 15:39

What was the alternate ending?
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Re: I watched 1984's DUNE last night. It's still terrible.

Postby georgiedenbro » 30 Nov 2014 22:14

Freakzilla wrote:What was the alternate ending?


I hope I'm remembering correctly, but I believe the full scene where Paul takes Irulan as his wife, grants Thufir an honorable end/burial, and where Jessica tells Chani they'll be remembered as wives, wasn't in the original. Here it is (and after it comes the rain scene):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Ht-bR5Nb60
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Re: I watched 1984's DUNE last night. It's still terrible.

Postby SandRider » 01 Dec 2014 21:10

can't watch that clip in Amurica, Home of the Muthafuckin Free.
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Re: I watched 1984's DUNE last night. It's still terrible.

Postby D Pope » 02 Dec 2014 10:44

This should work;

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Re: I watched 1984's DUNE last night. It's still terrible.

Postby Jodorowsky's Acolyte » 02 Dec 2014 22:50

D Pope wrote:This should work;



I think Kyle gives a more intense performance than Alec Newman when comparing both final scenes (even though this scene was cut). I still don't understand why the Smithee cut left out these other scenes.

In speaking of missing scenes, there was a time when I thought one scene from the Smithee version was missing from the theatrical cut. My brother and I thought that Sting was making fun of Thufir, and started off a silly speech to him by saying: "Well, Thufa! How are you today?" Gradually, we thought he said "Fufa," and my brother and I subsequently used that misunderstanding of Thufir's name as a shared joke. It turned out I misremembered the scene wrong. The line was "Well, Thufir," and the Baron said it, not Sting. It still sounds like he said "Thufa" when I hear it.

Hereby, I suggest that my alternative Fremen name shall be "Well Fufa."
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Re: I watched 1984's DUNE last night. It's still terrible.

Postby Pris Stratton » 12 Dec 2014 10:26

Lynch had an outstanding cast and very much potential. Sure some of the effects weren't so great, but imagine going from painting and having made a few brilliant surreal films to taking on a big project like Dune. At least he tried and captured some incredible visions despite it being a total flop.
But Dune will be a Laurentiis film until the bitter fucking end, Lynch didn't ruin that movie, the Laurentiis family (destroyers of art as Jodorowsky calls them) did.

And besides I personally love Lynch's Dune.
It's a beautiful mess.
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